On 11/5/05, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Updated Summary of recent paces... Appologies if I've missed or
> mischaracterized any.
>

No worries. The effort to keep things in perspective
is appreciated.

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>
> Modifing metadata on media resources
>    * I suggest using POST on member resource URI's to update metadata
> (e.g. atom:title and atom:summary)
>      * http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/PaceReworkPostOnMemberResource
>       (snell)
>
>
> Pub control
>    * Luke Arno is arguing to get rid of pub:control and pub:draft
>      * http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/PaceDropControl (arno)
>      * http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/PaceWorkflows (arno)
>
>    Consensus *appears* to be leaning towards keeping pub:control
>    and pub:draft.
>

I think some may be coming around on draft. A
little more discussion may prove fruitful.

Control is misleading cruft but no one seems to
care. :(

>
> Error response
>    * I am proposing refinements to the existing Success/Failure text
>      and hoping to stimulate more discussion about error response
>      requirements
>      * http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/PaceBetterHttpResponseCode
>        (snell)
>

Rob has a draft with an hError format that I think
we should look at.

>
> Collection Model
>    * Robert suggests simplifying the spec by dropping the Collection
>      model.  Everything is just "Feeds".  GET on Collection URI returns a
>      feed. Also affects introspection.
>      * http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/PaceSimpleIntroduction
>      * http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/PaceFeedsNotCollections
>        (sayre)
>

I have different ideas about how to do it but agree
on dropping the "collections" metaphor. I will
probably write up a proposal.

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>
> Introspection
>    * Robert believes that the current workspace introspection model is
> inadequate
>      * http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/PaceRemoveListTemplate
>        (sayre)
>      * http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/PaceSimpleIntroduction
>        (sayre)
>      * http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/PaceUseAppOutlines (sayre)
>      * http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/PaceRemoveMemberTypeMust
>        (sayre)
>      * http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/PaceXoXoIntrospection
>        (sayre)
>
>    * Luke Arno wants to use XHTML for Introspection. Last we heard,
>      a new version of the pace was in development.
>      * http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/PaceXHTMLIntrospection2
>        (arno)
>

I have withdrawn this. Half way through creating a new
version the new draft came out and now my view of
the protocol model has shifted away from even
having an introspection document.

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>
> Listing members
>    * Robert and Luke do not think link[rel="edit"] should be required.
>      * http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/PaceEditLinkMustToMay
>        (arno/sayre)
>

This ties into not liking the whole collections metaphor.
There are feeds and some of the members of some of
them are editable. The concept that "public feeds" are
a separate animal from APP "collections" is meaningless.
Public to who?

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>
> Invalid Atom / atom:id handling
>    * To avoid posting syntactically invalid Atom, Luke is suggesting the
>      use of a dummy atom:id used to signal the server to create a new
>      atom:id
>      * http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/PaceMagicId (arno)
>

I withdrew this. This was put up for discussion and
possible compromise and we have thankfully
become more sane about id since.

- Luke

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