On 7/11/05 3:06 PM, "Luke Arno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> b) so my APP-client may or may not work with your APP-server? gee, thanks.
> 
> Huh? Based on what?

Your APP-server may or may not implement the same extensions as my
APP-client. I thought that was an obvious implication of putting stuff into
extensions. You do realise that, right, especially since you are so
enamoured with shunting stuff into extensions?

>> c) as a publisher this is unacceptable. I am not my audience.
>> 
> 
> I have no way to know what you mean by that.

As a publisher, I'd use atom:updated as it was intended to be used - to
signal to those I'm am publishing to that here is an entry which has a
update they wouldn't be wasting their time looking at.

Just because I consider an update not significant for my audience does not
mean it was insignificant for me. I am not my audience. We have different
priorities. 

Example: An entry has a minor footnote with a link. That link is broken, so
as an editor I hunt high and low for an alternative and fix the entry. That
might take me an hour to track down. Not an insignificant amount of time. Is
this however a significant update for the audience? No. As publisher, I set
atom:updated according to my audience's needs.

I'm pretty sure this has been explained before. Are you sure you're not just
playing dumb?

>> Also, from the users p.o.v., when reviewing a collection of recent changes
>> and seeing some minor foobar that needs fixing, and doing the effort to fix
>> those changes (including looking up the proper spelling, searching for an
>> alternative URL for a broken link, etc etc), only to later find out that not
>> only did someone else already do those fixes, but did them before I even
>> synced, that would make me want to do violent things against whoever thought
>> a leaky sync is sufficient and not a problem.

> Boy, that was a bad move on you or your client's
> part. You should have done a GET (click "Edit"
> button or whatever) before you went to all that
> trouble. What a waste.

apparently, you forgot the offline case. or are ignoring it.

> If I change a bunch of code that I checked out a
> week ago and don't do an update first, only to
> find out that someone else made those changes
> 3 days ago, that would be my fault. I wouldn't
> blame it on CVS.

Different case entirely. (The timing is reversed)

e.

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