--- Danny Ayers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> James said "RSS 2.0 demonstrates the real-world fact
> that using
> namespaced modules works". I don't believe it does.
> There are very few
> extensions in common use. Last time I looked the
> usage was negligible.
>
> I would guess that it's grown now, but nothing like
> to the extent of
> extensions in RSS 1.0.  If you can show me a few RSS
> 2.0 feeds
> carrying more than half-a-dozen extensions, I'll
> accept the
> demonstration.
> 

There are as many RSS 2.0 modules as there are RSS 1.0
modules since every aggregator I am aware of respects
RSS 1.0 modules that appear in an RSS 2.0 feed. So any
argument against the adoption of modules in RSS 2.0 is
also one against the adoption of modules in RSS 1.0. 

Furthermore, given the fact that most aggregators
don't even use RDF parsers to process RSS 1.0 feeds
it's even hard to argue that RSS 1.0 modules show that
RDF-based extensibility works in the wild. 

This is getting into permathread territory and given
the fact I have to finish my 2 talks for XML 2004 next
week I won't be continuing this particular
conversation thread much further. 

> Dare, if I understand Henry correctly, I don't think
> this is really
> opening the debate as before as the effect on Atom
> Core is virtually
> nil. But you wanted a practical example - how about
> the query "Give me
> all the mp3 format audio files published by any of
> the people I know
> that work for Microsoft in the last week, that are
> less than 10
> minutes long with a review rating better than 8/10,
> unless the artist
> name is "Happy Mondays" in which case just give them
> to me". That can
> be done  today using off-the-shelf tools with
> virtually no coding (in
> particular no database structural building, the RDF
> provides the
> structure) and using mostly common extensions -
> MusicBrainz, FOAF, REV
> etc.

As I've mentioned in the past, complex querying isn't
an interesting scenario for most aggregator users.
This has been my experience with RSS Bandit which for
the most part has a fairly technical user base who
you'd think would enjoy such geeky features. 

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