OK, this is what I currently have; comments?

Appendix B.  Use in RSS 2.0

   As previously noted, while this specification's extensions are
   described in terms of the Atom feed format, they are also useful in
similar formats. This informative appendix demonstrates how they can
   be used in an RSS 2.0-formatted [9] feed.

   In RSS 2.0-formatted feeds, two entries are duplicates if they have
the same guid element. The update time of an entry is not defined by
   RSS 2.0, but the feed-level update time can be determined by the
   lastBuildDate element, if present.

   RSS 2.0-formatted Complete Feed

   <?xml version="1.0"?>
   <rss version="2.0"
    xmlns:fh="http://purl.org/syndication/history/1.0";>
    <channel>
     <title>NetMovies Queue</title>
     <link>http://netmovies.example.org/</link>
     <description>The DVDs you'll receive next.</description>
     <fh:complete/>
     <item>
      <title>Casablanca</title>
      <link>http://netmovies.example.org/movies/Casablanca</link>
      <description>Here's looking at you, kid...
      </description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2003 09:39:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"
      >urn:uuid:1225c695-cfb8-4ebb-aaaa-80da344efa6a</guid>
     </item>
    </channel>
   </rss>


   RSS 2.0-formatted Paged Feed

   <?xml version="1.0"?>
   <rss version="2.0"
    xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom";>
    <channel>
     <title>Liftoff News</title>
     <link>http://liftoff.example.net/</link>
     <description>Liftoff to Space Exploration.</description>
     <atom:link rel="next"
      href="http://liftof.example.net/index.rss?page=2"/>
     <item>
      <title>Star City</title>
      <link>http://liftoff.example.net/2003/06/news-starcity</link>
      <description>How do Americans get ready to work with Russians
      aboard the International Space Station? They take a crash course
      in culture, language and protocol at Russia's Star City.
      </description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2003 09:39:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>http://liftoff.example.net/2003/06/news-starcity</guid>
     </item>
    </channel>
   </rss>

   RSS 2.0-formatted Subscription Document

   <?xml version="1.0"?>
   <rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom";>
    <channel>
     <title>Liftoff News</title>
     <link>http://liftoff.example.net/</link>
     <description>Liftoff to Space Exploration.</description>
     <atom:link rel="prev-archive"
      href="http://liftoff.example.net/2003/05/index.rss"/>

     <item>
      <title>Star City</title>
      <link>http://liftoff.example.net/2003/06/news-starcity</link>
      <description>How do Americans get ready to work with Russians
      aboard the International Space Station? They take a crash course
      in culture, language and protocol at Russia's Star City.
      </description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2003 09:39:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>http://liftoff.example.net/2003/06/news-starcity</guid>
     </item>
    </channel>
   </rss>

   RSS 2.0-formatted Archive Document

   <?xml version="1.0"?>
   <rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom";
    xmlns:fh="http://purl.org/syndication/history/1.0";>
    <channel>
     <title>Liftoff News</title>
     <link>http://liftoff.example.net/</link>
     <description>Liftoff to Space Exploration.</description>
     <lastBuildDate>Fri, 30 May 2003 11:06:42 GMT</lastBuildDate>
     <fh:archive/>
     <atom:link rel="current"
      href="http://liftoff.example.net/index.rss"/>
     <atom:link rel="prev-archive"
      href="http://liftoff.example.net/2003/04/index.rss"/>

     <item>
      <description>Sky watchers in Europe, Asia, and parts of
      Alaska and Canada will experience a partial eclipse of the Sun
      on Saturday, May 31st.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2003 11:06:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>http://liftoff.nasa.gov/2003/05/30.html#item572</guid>
     </item>
     <item>
      <title>The Engine That Does More</title>
      <link>http://liftoff.example.net/2003/05/news-VASIMR.html</link>
      <description>Before man travels to Mars, NASA hopes to
      design new engines that will let us fly through the Solar
      System more quickly. The proposed VASIMR engine would do
      that.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2003 08:37:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>http://liftoff.example.net/2003/05/news-VASIMR.html</guid>
     </item>
    </channel>
   </rss>


On 10/06/2007, at 8:41 PM, Franklin Tse wrote:

Oops. Yes... should be "lastBuildDate" instead of "pubDate"... Sorry...

Franklin

----- Original Message -----
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Date: Sunday, 10 June, 2007 18:39
Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-nottingham-atompub-feed-history-10.txt

The draft currently says;

In RSS 2.0-formatted feeds, two entries are duplicates if they have
the same guid element. The update time of an entry is not defined
by RSS 2.0, but the feed-level update time can be determined by the
pubDate element.

Should 'pubDate' be changed to 'lastBuildDate'?



On 23/05/2007, at 6:22 PM, Franklin Tse wrote:


In section 4.2 of the draft,

   In Atom-formatted archived feeds, two entries are duplicates if
they
   have the same atom:id element.  The update time of an entry is
   determined by its atom:updated element, and likewise the update
time
   of a feed document is determined by its feed-level atom:updated
   element.

In RSS 2, the equivalent of atom:feed/atom:updated is rss/channel/
lastBuildDate. I think it is a good practice to always include it.

By the way, do publishers need to use an atom:id element in RSS 2
feeds since there is no equivalent in RSS 2?

Franklin

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Holderness" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "atom-syntax" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, 23 May, 2007 15:37
Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-nottingham-atompub-feed-history-10.txt


Franklin Tse wrote:
I think lastBuildDate and managingEditor should not be
removed since they are equal to atom:updated and atom:author
respectively.

I considered that, but it seems to me the only reason they are in
the Atom
examples is because Atom requires those elements - they don't
actually add
anything illustrative to the example. However, if you really want
to make
the examples identical element-for-element, then the Atom feeds
should all
include a subtitle element to match RSS's required channel
description.
IMHO.

Regards
James





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