On Nov 26, 2009, at 5:21 PM, Jan Algermissen wrote:


On Nov 26, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Julian Reschke wrote:


"When a resource is put under version control, it becomes a "versioned resource". Many servers protect versioned resources from modifications by considering them "checked in", and by requiring a "checkout" operation before modification, and a "checkin" operation to go back to the "checked-in" state. Other servers allow modification, in which case the checkout/checkin operation may happen implicitly."




Forgot to insert:

What about:


When a resource is put under version control, it becomes a "versioned resource". Many servers protect versioned resources from modifications by considering them "checked in", and by requiring a "checkout" operation before modification, and a "checkin" operation to go back to the "checked-in" state. Other servers allow modification and perfrom versioning without requiring an explicit checkout operation.


I feel there should be the notion of 'modification of checked-out working copy' in there but I don't mean to say that your above wording isn't suitable also.

Jan



Sorry,
Jan





Best regards, Julian



Julian Reschke wrote:
Hi Jan,
first of all thanks for the feedback!
Jan Algermissen wrote:
Julian,

some comments on the link relation draft:

> 2. Terminology

It is not clear to me, what the meaning of 'check out' and 'check in'.
Yes, we need to add text here. We originally started with the definitions with RFC 3253 (WebDAV versioning), but later on decided later on to just rely on generic definitions to make this work better with CMIS and JCR.
Also, the text (IMO) creates the impression that versioning can only take place when 'check out' and 'check in' are applied. However, a resource could also be versioned by the server upon any modification made by a client regardless of any 'checking out' or 'checking in'. The link relations specified would still make sense.
Indeed; and that's something that can even happen in WebDAV versioning (through the various modes of auto-versioning).
Assuming that 'checking out' and 'checking in' are operations on resources, I think the draft should address how clients achieve these operations. This would at least involve another link relation and specification how to use the linked resource to perform a checkout.
These kinds of operations are specific to the protocol in which they are used, while the link relations are meant to be generic; thus I'd avoid to go that way. For now, I've added this to the issues list: <http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/draft-brown-versioning-link-relations-issues.html#issue.checked-out >. I'll try to make a change proposal soonish.
Or am I misunderstanding what the draft is trying to do?

Appendix A

It should be 'working-copy' instead of 'working-resource'.
Indeed. Thanks for catching this.
I am glad to see this happening. Covers a lot of stuff that comes up in almost every project. Thanks.
That's good to hear, because defining generic link relations doesn't make sense unless there are generic use cases for them :-)
Best regards, Julian


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