Updated draft...

http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-snell-atompub-link-extensions-04.txt

- James

On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 5:53 PM, James Snell <[email protected]> wrote:
> So the key question is: what are the main algorithms we need to
> provide attributes for?
>
> - James
>
> On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Peter Keane <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:10 PM, James Snell <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Bob Wyman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> James, thanks for updating and revising this draft!
>>>> I would strongly encourage you to make the markup more expressive and
>>>> flexible by supporting "a generic hash attribute with an internal structure
>>>> for specifying algorithm and value". Actually, I would suggest that you
>>>> extend this a bit further to include a specification of the encoding for 
>>>> the
>>>> hash value.Thus, I would suggest the following pattern:
>>>>
>>>> hash_algorithm.encoding.hash_value
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hmm... for me, this immediately starts screaming overkill. I'd almost
>>> prefer to go the route of defining individual attributes for each hash
>>> algorithm... e.g.
>>>
>>>  md5="..."
>>>  sha256="..."
>>>
>>> Each using the basic hex encoding.
>>>
>>> The spec can define a handful of these for the most common hash
>>> algorithms and establish the pattern. New attributes for new
>>> algorithms can be added later.
>>
>> +1
>>>
>>> Just seems simpler.
>>>
>>>> Alternatively, you could define a single, required hash_value encoding.
>>>> (Which wouldn't be too bad a thing to do.) Clearly, there should be a
>>>> registry of hash_algorithms as well as encodings (if supported).
>>>> In your blog post, you mention that clients might tend to rely on the value
>>>> returned by the Content-MD5 header. While this may be reasonable for HEAD
>>>> requests, clients should probably not trust the remote server when doing
>>>> GETs; they would be well advised to recompute the hash to ensure that the
>>>> remote server isn't lying about the hash (there are quite a number of
>>>> useful, but often deceitful, reasons why this might happen). Also, please
>>>> note that it should be possible to include a hash value which uses a
>>>> different hashing algorithm and encoding than is used by the Content-MD5
>>>> implementation. Thus, for any particular web resource, we might have quite 
>>>> a
>>>> number of possible hash/encoding combinations and, in some cases, even have
>>>> two hashes available for a single GET (i.e. The Content-MD5 header value 
>>>> and
>>>> perhaps an SHA1/base64 hash specified in the link.) You might make a note
>>>> about some of these odd cases in your security considerations section.
>>>> bob wyman
>>>> On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 12:42 PM, James Snell <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Updated the Link Extensions Draft...
>>>>>
>>>>>  http://www.snellspace.com/wp/2010/05/atom-link-extensions/
>>>>>
>>>>>  http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-snell-atompub-link-extensions-03.txt
>>>>>
>>>>> - James
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Bob Wyman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> > I find that I have a real need for the "md5" Link rel mechanism defined
>>>>> > in
>>>>> > James Snell's old Atom Link Extensions draft or something functionally
>>>>> > equivalent. Basically, what I need to do is ensure that the "src"
>>>>> > attribute
>>>>> > on an atom.content element is pointing to a known version of a resource
>>>>> > rather than simply to any resource that has the same URL as in the src
>>>>> > attribute. I'm then going to sign the Atom entry that contains this "by
>>>>> > ref"
>>>>> > content element.
>>>>> > I've looked at the HTML5 RelExtentions Wiki but don't see anything there
>>>>> > that looks like it does the job.
>>>>> > Has anyone else needed hashed links in Atom? If so, what approach did
>>>>> > you
>>>>> > use to provide them? Is anyone aware of plans to introduce an "md5" or
>>>>> > equivalent attribute to the HTML5 list?
>>>>> > bob wyman
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> - James Snell
>>>>>  http://www.snellspace.com
>>>>>  [email protected]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> - James Snell
>>>  http://www.snellspace.com
>>>  [email protected]
>>>
>>>
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> --
> - James Snell
>  http://www.snellspace.com
>  [email protected]
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