I can only outline a way in ATS that more or less matches the printf example in your message. In ATS, the function PrintfType can not be defined.
On the other hand, if I understand correctly, your printf code in Idris would not be so easy to use if the format string is not a constant. For instance, I remember seeing an example in K&R where the format string is constructed at run-time. abstype string(string) abstype format(string) datatype Format(type) = | {a:type} Number(int -> a) of Format(a) | {a:type} Str(string -> a) of Format(a) | {a:type} Lit(a) of (String, Format(a)) | End(string) of () extern fun toFormat {cs:string} (string(cs)): Format(format(cs)) extern fun printfFmt {a:type} (fmt: Format(a), acc: string): a extern fun printf {cs:string}(fmt: string(cs)): format(cs) implement printf(fmt) = printfFmt(toFormat(fmt), "") On Friday, January 12, 2018 at 11:02:45 PM UTC-5, Max Hayden Chiz wrote: > > > > On Friday, January 12, 2018 at 8:15:54 PM UTC-6, gmhwxi wrote: >> >> >> >>But I assume you mean more generally that the idea of having a variadic >> function and parsing the first argument to determine the number of >> additional arguments and their types wasn't useful. >> >> It may be useful. But using %s for string, %c for char, etc. does not >> look like a good design. >> >> >>Is the variadic function capability what is missing in ATS2? If not, >> what is the difference that ATS1 allows it and ATS2 doesn't? >> >> Variadic functions are supported in ATS2. >> > > I was under the impression that they could be *called* but not *created* > as part of ATS2, i.e., I couldn't *make* my own variadic function. If that > not right, could you link to an example of how to make one in ATS? > > >> To support printf, one needs to parse a constant format string. I did not >> implement such a parser in ATS2. >> > > What I'm trying to understand is whether this is something that *hasn't* > been done or something that *can't* be done (short of modifying the > compiler). And again, this is just a toy example to help me understand how > ATS differs from Idris. I'm not trying to make the real printf type-safe or > make a good design for a printing library. I'm just trying to translate an > Idris example into ATS so that I can better understand the ATS language. > > I'll provide the Idris code below. I want to know if it's possible to do > something similar in ATS and whether it would work with a run-time supplied > format string or if it would only work for compile-time constants. > > The way this works in Idris is as follows: > > data Format = Number Format > | Str Format > | Lit String Format > | End > > PrintfType : Format -> Type > PrintfType (Number fmt) = (i : Int) -> PrintfType fmt > PrintfType (Str fmt) = (str : String) -> PrintfType fmt > PrintfType (Lit str fmt) = PrintfType fmt > PrintfType End = String > > printfFmt : (fmt : Format) -> (acc : String) -> PrintfType fmt > printfFmt (Number fmt) acc = \i => printfFmt fmt (acc ++ show i) > printfFmt (Str fmt) acc = \str => printfFmt fmt (acc ++ str) > printfFmt (Lit lit fmt) acc = printfFmt fmt (acc ++ lit) > printfFmt End acc = acc > > toFormat : (xs : List Char) -> Format > toFormat [] = End > toFormat ('%' :: 'd' :: chars) = Number (toFormat chars) > toFormat ('%' :: 's' :: chars) = Str (toFormat chars) > toFormat ('%' :: chars) = Lit "%" (toFormat chars) > toFormat (c :: chars) = case toFormat chars of > Lit lit chars' => Lit > (strCons c lit) chars' > fmt => Lit (strCons c "") fmt > > printf : (fmt : String) -> PrintfType (toFormat (unpack fmt)) > printf fmt = printfFmt _ "" > > Thank you for your help. > > > > >> On Friday, January 12, 2018 at 7:49:45 PM UTC-5, Max Hayden Chiz wrote: >>> >>> Thank you again for your reply. >>> >>> On Friday, January 12, 2018 at 5:42:09 PM UTC-6, gmhwxi wrote: >>>> >>>> ATS1 and ATS2 are very similar modulo minor syntactic differences. >>>> There isn't really much point in learning ATS1. >>>> >>>> I did not implement the printf stuff in ATS2 because it was not >>>> particularly >>>> useful. >>>> >>> >>> I agree that printf isn't particularly useful, it was just a toy example >>> that I was playing with. >>> >>> But I assume you mean more generally that the idea of having a variadic >>> function and parsing the first argument to determine the number of >>> additional arguments and their types wasn't useful. >>> >>> >>>> I have to say that 'printf' was a poor idea to start with in the first >>>> place. >>>> There are a lot more types than letters. >>>> >>>> >> So printf "%c %f" is of type "Char -> Double -> String" >>>> >>>> By the say, this is not true printf. The printf supported in ATS1 is a >>>> variadic function >>>> (just like in C). >>>> >>> >>> Is the variadic function capability what is missing in ATS2? If not, >>> what is the difference that ATS1 allows it and ATS2 doesn't? >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ats-lang-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ats-lang-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to ats-lang-users@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/ats-lang-users. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ats-lang-users/e072ff28-4ab3-46a2-834d-1a2264aaab46%40googlegroups.com.