Re: Survive the Wild!
Ok, [[wow]]. I've been writing this post for the last several hours, just coming back to it when ever I had time. So, here you go. I atempted to make sure I sounded as least harsh as possible, i'm not even angry. But if one of these points rubs someone the rong way I apologize. Also, just saying, knowing me, this is probably just in a big mumbo jumbo, but you should be able to make sence out of at least some of it. here goes.
Hi all. First, I knew it would happen and understand why your all frusterated at my decision. About the maps thing first, I meant possibly certain stores in the village, with other ways to get those items of course. It was only a thought, not even something confirmed I would do. All the unfairness, I completely understand as well. I just want to be able to hold onto most of the free portion of the game. I want people to be able to play it
fairly, for free. Which is why I would have no problem making the limitations more fair, possibly even slightly lowering the price of these accounts of course giving the purchasers a slight refund, but i'd have to think about stuff. This was an extremely hard decision to make. Do you know how much I tried keeping the game free for everyone? But thanks to not just the cheaters, I had to change my mind and make paid accounts a thing. Last time, I atempted doing a purge whare people could save there accounts. I offered restores to inisent people who lost there things after I fixed the bug they were using... But everyone was just to ungreatful for me to even consider doing that again. Everyone was extremely frusterated about loosing a day of work because they submitted there characters before. I know that's how it works, and it makes sence why people were angry at me then, and I know everyone just cares about the game play. But so much more goes into this for me. I was trying
to fix the cheating bugs staying up all night during my vacation, etc etc. I know, it's know excuse and i'm not treating it as such, i'm just mensioning it. Ok maybe it's a bit of an excuse, because it played a part in this decision. How these cheats work, is someone finds a bug to get 13000000 pop cans, then go around giving 250000 pop cans to every player they find. This makes it nearly impossible to just catch one cheater and make him/her go away. It's already to late. I can't just back up the char database... And we can thank the people who think it's fun to make the 2323232323232 ahahahahahahahah efefefefefef jkjkjhfkjghfkjgfkjgh characters all the time, play them for 2 minutes and never come back. More spamming and cheating. It quickly spirals out of control once 20 people have 250000 pop cans... Then start giving there friends... On and On and On. It just get's to the point whare I need to make an instand decision, to try to atem
pt to avoid a full purge. It keeps happening. So I had to do something to prevent it from happening. I know some of you think I can press a couple buttons and get rid of all the cheaters, but that's not how it works. Look at criticviews posts about the IP addresses. People can buypass bans. They can recreate there characters. Theres nothing I can do to stop it aside from money, the thing that is 200 times harder to hack. About the rules, I agree. I completely trake responsibility for not doing that and realize it as a huge mistake, and your statements are completely justified. However, theres more than 1 way to get information acrossed. When people get 2000000 pop cans, I try to warn them. All the time I try to warn them. They just don't listen. Rules or not, it just wouldn't matter. Theres a point whare rules or not, you know it's cheating and you know it's rong, even with out comon sence, at least if your getting warnings. Theres a /warn command for
admins for heavens sakes and they don't listen. I ban them... These cheating asses know what there doing rong. And if I can't find them? I set the motd or put out a public notification. Doesn't matter, it keeps happening. So rules or not like I said, it wouldn't have made a might of a difference anymore, at least for stopping cheating it's self. But for explinations and just general responsibility it makes perfect sence, and I'm gonna get it done. And I do, try to block cheating in the survive the wild code. But after a while... I can't just sit there fixing cheating bugs till 7:30 in the morning, then get pissed on by parents... Yeah, I do breefly wanna bring that up. The time I have on the computer is sometimes very limited. My parents are very strict about it and I avoid there strictness as best I can, but I don't wanna spend the time I have on the computer which may sceme like a lot, fixing the code. Yes, security is a big thing to be work
ed on and I do, but theres a point... At least for me, whare it just hardly is worth it to sit for so long and fix those bugs. It means no more game features. Thus charging for no limitations. People have loved the game and that's cool. And peoples love of a game is a very powerful motivator, but even that goes so far. How much is that worth. Because to me, it's worth quite a lot, but not all this. Not the stress I'm feeling that ends up getting offline with me while I try to think of more ways to stop cheaters, or the time I spend online trying to fix them, and restart the server another time to see that my cheat fixing code is still broken, it's just dev things of course, but I don't know about you other devs, but for me, after a while, there's a point whare i've had enough of it. Threw out everything i've been trying to keep the game as free as possible, and yeh, maybe I should list this as donationwhare though I consider me selling to play
ers rather than them donating to me when items are bought, but that's how I power the stw server that I have. I was considering talking to players about upgrading that, but the thing is, it's utterly not fun having your own game hosted on a server that you can hardly control. If something goes crunch, I gotta wait for my server host to get up and fix it for me. Me and damion used to be working all day on little bgt servers so I could run something and get the contents of the server folder so I could view it... Uh uh, to much after a while. It just, after a while, just starts to not work. And I don't wanna be the person who's stressing on someones home machine all the time with stw's server that takes an entire thread to work. So once I got enough money from the stw store, I got this VPS. Now I use that money to pay for it. If people choose not to pay, that's not my choice and I completely respect your decision. What do do not respect, however, is when s
omeone purchases 3 DFC's, then finds a bug that, @steve I can't find in the games code because I never know what the bug is, allows them to multiply there DFC's to 6000000. So you think i'm cash grabbing... Technacly, just, logicly, DFC's, teleporters, just those items... I've scene chars with 6000000 DFC's and once even 599000000 teleporters... i'm not lying. Loads of people can back that up. Anyway... How much money is that technacly, logicly, steeling from me? Well, based on simple calculations... Result text $128067800. Uh, yeah. I think I got way more royally cash grabbed then I am not even trying to do. So I see how theres no explination and the rules document would have fixed that, but how would it fix the cheating? mind you i'm going to right one up tonight, tonight, anyway so I don't forget. Back to my earlier point though, aside from like 5 inisent people, probably less, once a cheater multiplies there inventory
like that, no one is going to buy them. And some inisent players have this story. Oh, I had pop cans and other stuff to trade, so I gave who I didn't know was a cheater some pop cans and they gave me death free cards and teleporters. See, there still inisent, and with out even knowing, they have cheated items. See how it uncontrolably spreads? You might say I just stop the trading of paid items, but theres a pretty compelling reason not to do that. I mean... Pay pal is banned in some countries... right? And doing purges to clear the items from the server monthly would drop my player base way farther than adding these limits. Because honestly, how else to remove those items? Now, to the reasons I did this that arn't even the real cheaters. This could sound harsh, but most of you are as ungreatful as hell. Yeah, I know how it works, and I know you want to enjoy the game and when you loose some of your work you get pissed, I would to, but if i'm thinking of your point o
f view, it'd be great if you could consider mine. When this cheating happened at first, I did everything I could to fix it. I knew i'd have to do a purge, so I added a /charsubmit command because I cared about your guyses time. I waited 2 days for you all to submit your characters to not get purged, and said that if your submitted char was deleted as a cheater i'd help you restore. But nope, that's not even near enough. Everyone was fucking pissed. They were all pissed because they lost 12 hours of work. You have no idea how close I was to just clicking the purge button, deleting the submitted data, enjoying the rest of my vacation and saying deal with it on your own, now you lose 6 months of work, and who gives a flying fuck. That's what the players of stw made me feel like. I know it's probably rediculis, and I only showed a little bit of that on the game, but what I posted above was what I was thinking. So what do I do then. I need an answer. I want
the game to remain as free as possible, but if i'm gonna get robbed 128000000+ dollars every 3 days... Yeah, I have to do something. I understand that as it is hard for me to see all your points of view, it is probably at least a bit hard to see mine. I figured deeling with everyone getting pised all at once would be better than deeling with it slowly over time with purges. All that time not making a single sent until I run out of time with the vps and then bye bye stw. So this was my only option I saw remaining to me. And honestly, maybe I should just make it entirely paid as smoke said. All you are so mad you just say your done. Is it worth trying to make the game as playible for as many people as possible? I am starting to think not. It is a rout that I really don't want to have to take though. So I hope this clears up some issues, any more explaining i'd be happy to do, but I hope this helps at least a little bit explain why I did this.
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