Re: please send me bgt.exe
I think it's highly arrogant to assume that you can demand, require, and otherwise force other people not to use whatever language they want, no matter how old or out of date, no matter how unsupported. If the developer hasn't himself said please stop using BGT because of reason X Y Z, then no one else has the right to do so either -- and in fact, to a certain degree, once the developer has freely released the language, even he has limited impact on who will or won't, can or can't use it.
A lot of you guys complain that people won't leave BGT alone. Allow me to counter by complaining that you guys won't leave BGT bashing alone. Whether or not a person is getting a language to write hello world or to copy code, that's ultimately their prerogative. It only becomes an issue when the results of a coding effort makes a negative impact on the forum itself, such as through a clone rip-off. You're assuming BGT users are guilty before you even get to see what they're doing with a spade -- jumping to the conclusion that they're burying a dead body, when all they might be doing is planting a potato.
The creator himself may indeed be done with BGT, but he has never expressly placed any injunctions upon using the product, even if he no longer wishes to support or distribute / host it. It seems rather high-handed, therefore, for a few voices to automatically jump to the conclusion that everyone must stop using it, as if BGT were some plague-ridden horse.
I applaud those of you who love Python or whatever language you've embraced. That's great! But why can't you leave people alone when they want to go at it with BGT, even if only as a starting point? And maybe you would prefer a different starting point, that's fine, that's your preference, but you certainly aren't omnipotent enough that your preference should reflect everyone else's. Would you blithely move on to another language someone else was lauding simply because they said stop using Python! It's a piece of garbage!
I get that with other languages, you have more to deal with as far as package management and dependencies and so forth, but that's what programming is, and if you aren't going to step up and take this on, then why exactly are you doing this?
This is like the most presumptuous of statements. You're already assuming that whoever is taking up a programming language has to do something great with it. Maybe they just want to tinker. Maybe they just want to dabble. These approaches are absolutely fine. You're treating their request to get BGT as if they're a potential game publisher, and you can't stand that they're going to be releasing said product in BGT. They've never intimated any such desires, they just want the damn installer for the language. I might turn around and say if you're not doing anything great with Python, then what are you in this for?
Not everyone needs to learn about dependencies and libraries. Not everyone needs to get the third degree nerd book thrown at them just because they might want to play around with a few lines of code. I'm so unimpressed with this negative mindset in our community, making mountains out of molehills.
In the end, why can't we all just live and let live? Why do you guys care so damn much what people want to code their projects in? Those projects most likely won't see the light of day -- they may not even be projects, just experiments!
You guys are the elitist nut jobs standing in the doorways of grocery stores, tearing through people's grocery carts and criticizing their choices and telling them that what they've picked would never make a good banquet, when all they want is for you to shut the hell up so they can leave, go home, and make a dinner to feed their family, or heck, to put their TV dinner in the microwave just to feed themselves.
Just let it be. The OP only asked for the BGT installer, no more, no less!
Kai
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