On Sat, 2005-11-26 at 14:13 -0800, mac wrote:
> pfarrell Wrote: 
> > Please, lets keep the rational scientific skepticism over in the main
> > forums/threads. At least Vinnie didn't say it sounds more 'chocolate'
> > and 'more yin than yang' which is terminology used by serious reviewers
> > in articles published by The Absolute Sound.
> Pat, I consider myself an audiophile but I also poses some healthy
> scepticism. 

Ah, an Engineer, eh?
See "Yes, we are all engineers" on 
http://www.pfarrell.com/farrell/us.html

>  If a modder can't tell me why he's chosen to do something
> and then back it up with some simple empirical results (that hopefully
> don't conflict with Sean's) I lose faith in what they're doing. 

Sounds to me like a lot of the stuff advertised in the Audiophile
magazines.

When I was taking EE classes (way back in the dark ages)
we were shown and measured how tube amps add all sorts of
distortions and evil stuff, along with not being close
to linear across the 20-20kHz band. But now the audiophiles have
defined it as good distortion. Breaks my brain.

Then years later, I started playing electric guitar, and
bought a tubed amp because electric guitars sound "better"
with some tube-type distortion. But that is for making
music, not reproducing it. 

I'm not at all smart enough to know when to believe engineering
and when to believe voodoo/magic/etc.


>  In addition, when I'm told that I'm spreading "wrong" information 

Not gonna defend it, which is why I asked that we all play nice on the
Group W bench. No personal attacks or insults, by anyone, please.

> Changing stuff in a circuit just because you can isn't a good enough
> reason for me.

I have no problem with your analysis on this at all. I just
would rather we all turn down the heat of the rhetoric.

I live "inside the Beltway" and I get far too much
heated rhetoric already.

I can imagine that for a fair number of mass produced
products, none of which are audiophile class, that
some mods could make for real improvement.
>From what I've seen from Sean and SD over the years,
it is clear that they are smart folks and not aiming
too low. So I'm not sure that there is a lot
of low hanging fruit to fix.


-- 
Pat
http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html


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