tomjtx;152565 Wrote: 
> 
> The very fact that you are tested can change the way you hear. And all
> you objectivists out there, remember how you were talking about the
> subjectivity of hearing(dependency of mood, health etc.) before you
> reject that hypothesis)
> 
> so it is not implausible to posit that blind testing itself may
> introduce another variable and ABX  itself is not a foolproof method of
> detecting differences.
> I am sure one could take measurably different components and still get
> a "no diffrence" result from an ABX test.
> 

Let's examine this hypothesis for a moment.  Let's suppose indeed there
is a condition - call it blinditis - that acts to prevent people from
hearing differences under blind tests, and proceed via reductio ad
absurdum.  Immediately there is something strange, because when
subjected to blind tests people normally *think* they can hear a
difference.  I've never heard anyone say that a difference which was
clear before became hard to hear during the blind test.  So not only
does blinditis know to kick in only during blind tests, it's so subtle
that it makes people think they can hear the difference just as before
when in fact they can't.  So blinditis is a pretty clever condition.

Let's go a step further - if conditions such as blinditis exist, isn't
it possible that other, similar conditions exist?  Other conditions
that might have similar effects, like making you think you can hear a
difference when you actually can't?  And how are we to know when those
conditions are affecting us and when not?  It certainly wasn't obvious
that blinditis exists, but now that we know it does, we'd better face
the fact that many other such conditions are likely to exist too!  So
now we are in a very uncomfortable situation - since blind testing is
useless, and the rest of the time many other conditions can similarly
affect us, we have no way at all to determine anything.

And I'm afraid that's the end of the story - if blinditis existed it
would mean all research in medicine, studies of new drugs, all
psychology, and much of sociology were useless.


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