GaryB;176593 Wrote: > Mr. Opaqueice (do you have a first name?), > I think your academic credentials and job aren't particularly relevant > to this discussion. And it comes across as a bit high handed - you > can't convince us that are right so you bring in academic credentials > to enhance the arguments that aren't good enough to do the job on their > own. > > If I take Jeff's simplified version of the discussion: > > > > I think that second part isn't quite accurate. I think that part 2) is > really: > > 2)I don't believe that you are hearing a real difference and I will > insist that you aren't until you prove it to me. It's your job to > prove it me, not my job to disprove that there's a real difference. > > This type of passive sniping from the sidelines is really a bit off > putting. > If you don't believe that there are differences with these tweaks > that's fine - just leave us to have our fun. But it's not really > necessary to turn every discussion into one about blind testing. After > all, this is the Audiophiles board. > > ---Gary
I disagree with your characterization of 2. 2. Until you can prove to me that you hear a difference which is caused by factors which are not purely psychological, and which are repeatable under controlled conditions (and by others, as well), I will remain skeptical. I don't believe that you, I, or anyone else is immune from expectation effects. See my point about experiments earlier. In the hard sciences, experiments aren't considered valid unless they meet the two conditions about control and repeatability. This is essentially makes the whole "I heard it" thing in a sighted test by one person unconvincing, and definitely NOT even close to a valid experiment And I'd like to point out that the accusation of arrogance leveled against proponents of blind testing is a canard. It's not that we don't believe any particular person: it's that we think the same basic laws apply to all of us. -- totoro squeezebox 3 -> mccormack dna .5 -> audio physic tempo 4 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ totoro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5935 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32301 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
