GaryB;176593 Wrote: 
> Mr. Opaqueice (do you have a first name?),
> I think your academic credentials and job aren't particularly relevant
> to this discussion.  And it comes across as a bit high handed - you
> can't convince us that are right so you bring in academic credentials
> to enhance the arguments that aren't good enough to do the job on their
> own.

Sorry for that; I almost never mention what I do exactly because I
would rather have the argument stand on its own.  The only reason I
mentioned it this time is that it was particularly relevant to the
question of how plausible it is that vibration could have a significant
effect.  Let's forget it.

> 
> 2)I don't believe that you are hearing a real difference and I will
> insist that you aren't until you prove it to me.  It's your job to
> prove it me, not my job to disprove that there's a real difference.
> 
> This type of passive sniping from the sidelines is really a bit off
> putting.
> If you don't believe that there are differences with these tweaks
> that's fine - just leave us to have our fun.  But it's not really
> necessary to turn every discussion into one about blind testing.  After
> all, this is the Audiophile board.
> 

A couple of comments - first, I'm not insisting on anything, I'm simply
expressing my opinion.  It's no one's job to prove anything here; none
of us here work in that field AFAIK (although some people do and it
[b[is[/b] their job; I know some of them, and it might be instructive
to read what they have to say about this).

As for the second part of your comment, these boards are for people
that care about audio to exchange information.  Healthy skepticism
regarding particular tweaks is useful (at least for some of us) and
highly relevant.  Furthermore your implication that "audiophile"
precludes mention of blind testing is a good example of how polarized
and far from the reality this discussion has become, so much so that
any mention of it is even banned on some fora.  

To me, audiophile means someone that cares about sound quality.  I'm an
audiophile, and that's exactly why I think blind testing is crucial. 
It's impossible to discuss or learn more about the subject without it
coming up.  It's unfortunate that it also leads to acrimonious debate,
but please, let's try to avoid that.  I apologize if I gave offense; it
wasn't my intention.

Now, can we get back to the subject, if you're still interested?  I
would still like to know what you think about the possibility that what
you heard isn't due to a physical difference in the sound but rather to
something like the placebo effect.  Are you sure it wasn't?  If so,
how?


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