Henry Kissinger famously said:
"Academic politics is so vicious because so little is at stake."

This discussion strikes me in much the same way - we seem to be getting
worked up over what is basically a frivolous pursuit.  It also mirrors
(imperfectly) some of what one sees in politics.  Recently, there was
an interesting article about the tendency of humans to be suspicious
and how this translates to a tendency for politicians to be overly
hawkish with predictable results.  You can read more about that here:
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=3660

The analogy to audio is as follows:

1)People are passionate about audio which is a good thing.  But we
shouldn't take it too seriously.  We can have this discussion and still
remain civil.  I'd suggest that people refrain from the name calling
that I've seen in other threads.

2)As in politics, the tendency to be skeptical seems to be very
ingrained.  Additionally, deeply ingrained psychological tendencies
often lead to misunderstandings and further polarization.  The
following quote seemed quite relevant:
"the tendency of both sides of a dispute to view themselves as reacting
to the other’s provocative behavior is a familiar feature of marital
quarrels, and it is found as well in international conflicts."

And I'd add it seems to be found in audio discussions as well.  I
believe that web based discussions make things even worse.  Comments
that one writes may seem innocuous but often sound overly harsh when
read by a 3rd party.

My point in all this is to say that when someone makes subjectivist
statements it is not meant as a provocation to the objectivists.  And
the reverse is equally true.

My reason for starting this thread was not to censor anyone.  It was
more a request for a bit of self control on the part of the objectivist
crowd so that those of us who aren't quite as dogmatic in our beliefs
can have discussions on subjective topics without the discussion
getting derailed.

What do you say?

---Gary


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