totoro;178295 Wrote: > There should be a special line in that page for people who make the > following argument: > > I think you are wrong: furthermore, I'm going to make an implicit claim > that you are committing a fallacious argument of known type, as listed > on this page, but I won't tell you which. > > Aside from having no validity as an argument itself, the implicit > "you're dishonest/stupid" component is fairly uncivil. > > So I'll reply in kind: the "argument" you just made can fairly > charitably be called bullshit. And this is entirely independent of > whatever the position you are opposing happens to be.
Well golly, I certainly don't understand why you've go your knickers in such a twist. CeeJay was simply relaying a comment from someone at Slim Devices, caveated it as such, and asked for comments. Given the care with which he posted, I've have no issues with his post. The point I was trying to make is that in both science and engineering, a plausable and logical hypothosis is a far cry from a compelling and definitive proof, especially when it never goes to the next step of empirical verification. And yes, this is covered in the referenced url, as is 'changing the subject', 'moving the goalposts', 'ad hominem', 'appeal to authority', etc... which is applicable to many of the posts on this board, including my own. I think that url is a wonderful reference - http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/skeptic/arguments.html as I often read posts, including my own, and have trouble giving name to the particular error in logic/rhetoric. If you feel the reference is of no use to you, ignore it. As to the actual subject matter at hand - I have the little Unifive +5v wall wart in front of me. Actually, it also makes an equal caliber -5v supply with a switching of the connector, as it is a floating supply. Its noise production is both transverse and common. That common mode component is exacerbated by the long, parallel, non shielded leads. Similarly, 6'+ of 21ga?? ground lead is less than ideal. Nor is there, I assume, given its less than 2 cubic inch volume, much room for the inductive components generally found within far larger and more expensive switchers to deal with noise. And ultimately, that ground is referenced to the signal ground on both the RCA analog and digital outputs, which by a circuitous path ultimately establish a ground reference. All I can suggest is that folks might read Bill Whitlock's (at the Jensen transformer site) papers on 'dirty grounds'. FWIW -- occam ------------------------------------------------------------------------ occam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=949 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32231 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
