Eric Carroll;180342 Wrote: 
> Well, while I try to be respectful of people who can hear a difference,
> I have to somewhat disagree with this statement. 
> 
> I have been personally subjected to salespeople who promolgate unproven
> claims of better audio quality in order to extract money. The audio shop
> I bought my recent power amp stated that "everything has a colour",
> meaning even piece of equipment influences tonality, etc. This is
> provably false for certain equipment of a certain class. 
> 
> I watch many people claim improvement and performance enhancements for
> significant dollars, many of which contradict known principles of
> engineering and physics. 
> 
> While I believe someone when they claim they can hear an improvement (I
> believe their claim of perception), if it costs money, especially lots
> of money, then I think there is an obligation to demonstrate the claim
> beyond advertising statements using something that is recognized as
> approaching consensus principles of evaluation. That means, to me in
> order of credibility:
> 1. Direct Measurement with known correlation to audibility
> 2. DBT where direct measurement is not (yet) known
> 3. Single person multi-trial ABX (as a causual test)
> 
> (so called HABX testing, where a person does the ABX testing works for
> me)
> 
> AB testing when you known which is what is not convincing to me.
> 
> You can always mod something, or sell something on non-performance
> features. Claims of performance and efficacy demand a higher standard,
> if you want my money.

Well, OK, anyone must have the right to crusade against stupidity and
wasted money.

But people must also be able to discuss without crusades going on
continously. Hence the need for ABX-free zones.

BTW, what do you think is the amount of money spent on woodo audiophile
products compared to wrinkel reduction and the like? I haven't seen much
crusading to stop people from buying anti-aging cream.


-- 
P Floding

No, I didn't ABX it. And I won't even if you ask me. (Especially not if
you ask me.)
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