Eric Carroll;184313 Wrote: > Please don't misquote me. I didn't say that at all.
I didn't cite you, I said that was my understanding, which well might be erroneous. Eric Carroll;184125 Wrote: > c) yes, it is possible some manufacturer fubared their design. If so its > not TOSLINKs fault as a design. Bad cables impact networks the world > over. But in a .5-1 MHz signal regime the cable has to be pretty > appaling. > > d) This is the kicker. If you think that you need +-100ps jitter > control on a TOSLINK connection than there is no way a LED and plastic > can achieve that. If you think you need +-.5us I don't see how it > couldn't achieve it. > > Its all in the requirements you believe a TOSLINK has to achieve. This is what I was talking about. I didn't mean to say that Toslink doesn't work on paper. I thought that so wide rejection of Toslink might originate in "real world" part quality, and may be that belongs to a past - I don't know. As for jitter - you said that about +-100ps. I never claimed I need 100ps or 500ps in particular, but I'm interested to find out the limit of jitter control of LED-plastic toslink vs. coax - please note - regardless of its audibility. Eric Carroll;184313 Wrote: > And, by the way, its not an assumption, I said there are papers on this > issue. For example, 'here is a paper on this issue.' > (http://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/ast/26/1/50/_pdf). Very interesting paper, it answers on some of my concerns. Too bad they didn't make it fine enough between 500 and 250ns - I'd be curious to know. Eric Carroll;184313 Wrote: > If you "don't believe" in audibility testing and don't accept the > scientific basis of looking into this issue, then we don't have common > ground for further discussion. Feel free to select whichever one you > have a personal preference for. Right now we are at the edge of the > subjectivist/objectivist argument, and I won't enter into that. You really don't have to be arrogant to sound convincing. I'm not believer at all. And of course I accept scientific basis. I don't believe in listening tests unless arranged in a proper way. The test you suggested is by no means scientific, and you acknowledged that first. -- 325xi ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 325xi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5661 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33146 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
