harmonic;264880 Wrote: 
> I think that its because   the human ear and brain  are  much more
> complicated tool then  what some jitter and noise  specs  will show.
Precisely. But what is the outcome?

1. Measurements are BS. Trust your own ears.
- why publish measurements?
- 80% of this forum should be easily ignored
- the mods are not that bad as Sean paints them, since they sound
better. Who cares how they measure?

2. You just don't know what to measure
-  why publish measurements?
- 80% of this forum should be easily ignored because they are based on
the wrong measurements
- the mods are not that bad as Sean paints them, since they sound
better and they can't be proved as badly measured because wrong things
are measured

3. The results of "subjective" tests depend on the expectations, and
expectations depend on the price tags.
- why publish listening tests?
- they published a rave review for iPod which is not an audiophile
product and costs much less
- why disappoint publishing measurements?

4. Ears lie. Everything sounds the same (opaqueice's point of view ;-)
- iPod + mp3 is the way to go!
- before doing any measurements John Atkinson should be double blinded
- why publish anything?
- any manufacturer who places price tags higher than $500 should be
immediately sued.

5. Can't think of anything else...


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