opaqueice;277809 Wrote: 
> Then there are posturings like this:

Quote:
Originally Posted by John Atkinson 
Given the bigger bit budget at 320kbps, the AAC codec produces a result
that may well be indistinguishable from CD for some listeners some of
the time with some music. 

opaqueice;277809 Wrote: 
i]That[/i] would have been interesting, because what most people really
want to know is which format to use and at what level of compression. 
This kind of vague cursory analysis and unsubstantiated statements
isn't useful.


Geez, isn't that what he said?

opaqueice;277809 Wrote: 
Frankly, I very much doubt he would have been able to hear the
differences between 320 MP3 or AAC and CD (at least not without lots of
practice and choosing the test track very carefully), and after all the
whining Stereophile has been doing recently that wouldn't look very
good.

Who's posturing now?

opaqueice;277809 Wrote: 
I too use FLAC, and for the same reasons haven't paid that much
attention to lossy formats. "HOWEVER MY IMPRESSION" is that the MP3
codec has improved considerably in recent years. One obvious thing is
to use VBR (variable bit rate) rather than CBR. "AFAIK" VBR is always
superior, and yet most MP3s don't use it.

As for 320, "MY UNDERSTANDING" is that "IF" you know the weak points of
the particular MP3 encoder you're using you can find of construct a
track that will reveal them pretty easily. I've never seen a positive
ABX result for 320 MP3, but I wouldn't be surprised "IF" they exist.

Actually I'd say "A GOOD BET" is a strongly asymmetric test tone. You
can hear absolute polarity inversion with that pretty easily, and "I
THINK" all these lossy algorithms completely destroy phase coherency,
so that "SHOULD" manifest itself as a subtle change in the pitch of
asymmetric tones. "NEVER TRIED IT THOUGH".

Thanks for the chuckles.

RG


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