Gotta' vote with Jeff Flowerday, PasTim and HumanMedia. "No harm, no foul." Soundcheck's mods and SBGK's mods to Soundcheck's mods are entirely optional. People can try them or not and use or discard them as they choose. I tend to believe that most folks here are intelligent enough to understand that it's just experimentation. If someone tries the various mods and, after a bit of listening time, feels their system's sound has benefited, then great. If there's no perception of benefit or it's detrimental, they can put things back to the original Logitech settings. Each of gets to form our own, admittedly subjective, opinion/perceptions based on our own experience. Why is that such an affront?
(I'd underline this if I could!) but n the context of this thread , I don't particularly care whether the perceived benefit is real or imagined. I understand that it could, theoretically, be neither, either, or some of both and, in this case, that's actually just fine with me. It only costs me a few minutes of my time---which is entirely my choice to spend---to try these modifications. Anyone who's read even the tiniest fragment of this and other threads can pretty much figure out that, absent double-blind listening tests, getting to any conclusive, objective evidence of a real positive change doesn't exist. So, then, it becomes subjective and a matter of opinion--to my mind not much different than my arguing that I like Mahler better than Mozart. And, I personally think that's a kind of discussion that can and should be, at the least, tolerated with the clear understanding that we are having that sort of subjective discussion. Neither of these fellows is trying to hoodwink people out of any money and, from the beginning, this entire thread is about nothing more than the perception of better sound as a result of trying the various mods. I see nothing at all wrong in continuing this thread. I find no small delight---not in the hyperbole, rancor, and attacks from either side of this particular issue---but in the very human quest to "make things better". Really, if one objects to what Soundcheck, SBGK, and the various other folks who've contributed their tweaks and mods here, pay no more attention to them. Most of us already know that there are substantive objections. The rehashing of those over and over again, along with the personal attacks, is just as annoying to folks who enjoy trying these mods as the "second coming" claims are to those who think the mods are B.S. We've heard both sides ad nauseum. If the Logitech moderators feel the thread is genuinely detrimental to the product, I have no doubt that this thread would quickly disappear. Otherwise, please allow each of us to weigh the already-stated pros and cons and form our own opinions. -- rgro Rg System information ------------------------ Main: PS Audio Quintet > Vortexbox > Teddy Pardo PS, Touch (wired) > Toslink > Rega DAC > LFD LE IV Signature amp > VA Mozart Grands > REL Acoustics R305. Home Theatre: Duet/SBR (Wired) > Pioneer VSX 919 > Energy Take 5 Classic 5.1. SBS 7.7.1 r33751 on a Vortexbox Appliance, V 2.0, Touch: FW 7.7.1 r9558. Duet: FW 7.7.1 r9557. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ rgro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
