Archimago wrote: > Doesn't this depend on what you mean by "audiophile"? > > An "audiophile" is a lover of "high quality audio reproduction" which in > fact is the first line of the Wikipedia entry; nothing more. Our world > views however then dictates the relative merits of the hardware, > software, possibility of improvements with doing this or that. Each one > of us will have to stand by our beliefs molded with experiences in life > that shape what we're able / willing to believe. > > When you say "Frankly, you have little experience as an audiophile..." > you seem to imply we all have some kind of common definition. > > PS: It's certainly within the world view of the "objectivist audiophile" > that some of the writers for such rags/web sites as Hi-Fi+, TAS, > Stereophile, 6moons, etc. are also defined as "clowns". ;-)
+1 Especially 6 moons ,but I think stereotimes is even worse http://stereotimes.com/acc032212.shtml But is suspect most net based outfits are pure shills from day one . The praise everything mostly ? The rags have become like that trough a long process where all are friends manufacturer and journalists , that kind of corruption can be hard to see from the inside . And add the stronger force of money if you add financed your are not free to displease the advertiser if you cant take the hit of loosing some advertiser for some time . In the case of TAS it was not a long process , they discounted abx as valid testing methods from day one and do not measure much and do not posses any applicable skills in audio engineering ( especially in the digital domain , as noted by thier article on digital audio ) and " pre corrupted " by thier initial mind set their where fast tracked to hell . The term "usefull idiot" is used in some spy novels I can't find a better English term ? The idea is that someone is doing your agenda without ever understanding that he's doing it ! Even if told up front . And it don't take much to manipulate some . They want to believe ! this is fertile ground for charlatans hence the rise in unorthodox tweaks like "ambient field enhancers "we are back to literal snake oil and not methaphorical snake oil . So you can be an objective audiophile but it's excitingly hard to do as the audio press has mostly betrayed us and provide little valid information on how things works and how products actually performs . You can even be objective with subjective methods ( use properly setup listening tests ) and augment with technical stuff . I wish they could deliver the test objects to some of these reviewers in large sealed boxes with only the cables sticking out with no information on brand or price or design principles :) you add weights to make them weight the same , they should be heavy it's important for audiophiles that equipment is heavy for some reason ( it a valid concern within reason ) you add some mechanical manupilators and an ir transparent patch on the box . I like this one ""Frankly, you have little experience as an audiophile..." you seem to imply we all have some kind of common definition. "That's it . What is the common definition for a card carrying audiophile ? You dont have to believe in all the cr*p that's around to be one I don't think so. So is this " experience " believing more and more of this cr*p ,drinking more cool-aid ? So when you finally achieve wisdom after years and years of audiophilism you bought it all and have your trouser around your ankles . Looks awfully similar to joining the Scientology or something similar . But you end up with 500000 $ in underperformaning audio equipment of technically questionable pedigree. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72018 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
