marcoc1712 wrote: 
> John,
> 
> 
> could I ask You witch USB DAC are you using? If is kind of a KIt or a
> commercial product, could you point me to the source?
> 
> is a kind of the one you'll be using in CSP1?
> 
> thx a lot.
> 
> p.s.
> 
> I could not understand why if you upsample at i.e. 352.8 you still need
> a software filter,  is not assured this way that aliasing is far away
> from the audible spectrum (reason why the hardware filter is disabled, I
> suppose)?
> 
> 
> Marco.

The DAC I am using is a custom design I have done so you can't get it
anywhere. Speaking of kits, I am designing a somewhat similar DAC for
Bottlehead, it will be a kit, but all the hard work is already done on
one PCB. It's not available yet, but hopefully will be out sometime
early next year.

Or just get a CSP!

As to upsampling, all (usefull) upsampling has to use a filter, that is
just part of the upsampling process. If you just resample the data
without applying the filter you haven't actually done anything. This is
best with a picture, I don't have one handy (I'm on vacation), maybe
someone else can post a picture of this.

For the wordy explanation, lets take the output of a basic DAC chip,
without any digital or analog filtering you get a stairstep. Upsampling
without the filter is just subdividing each of those stairsteps into
smaller pieces, but keeping the same values. Lets say you have a sample
at .5V level, 8X upsampling gives you 8 shorter samples all at the same
.5V, you haven't changed anything. 

What you want is the upsampler to make a "guess" at filling in the
intermediate values between the .5V sample and the next sample. The
filter defines exactly how that is done. The human hearing system seems
to be quite sensitive to exactly what that filter does, slight
differences in that filter can make significant differences in what we
hear.

All modern DAC chips do this filtering process builtin to the chip, and
every one of them does it in such a way that does not sound so good.
This thread is all about doing that filtering externally in order to
bypass the not so good version in the DAC chip.

John S.


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