Archimago wrote: 
> I agree Arny. While I enjoy reading the HA stuff, it's not much fun
> posting when the "TOS#8 Bridgade" rolls around and deposits responses
> like this:
> 20178
> 
> Granted it might be warranted but without opportunity to discuss, that's
> just not much fun for a hobby forum... It ends up being another
> religious decree like the Ten Commandments.
> 
> 

The real problem is that many things in audio are difficult or
impossible to truly DBT, Examples are things like loudspeakers and room
acoustics. Not everything is a simple signal processor or a perceptual
encoder.

In one case an AES paper was cited as DBT-substantiated proof that
certain audible effects of room acoustics aren't actually audible. 
Curiosity got the best of me, and as an AES member I could download and
read the paper for myself. It turned out that the paper was not based on
any DBTs, and itself was not offered as anything but an engineering
report on some interesting student experiment. 

IOW, someone was pulling the wool over the moderators and conference
member's eyes based on the problems that many non-AES members have to
surmount to read AES papers. Of course AES membership is only about $100
a year, so if you are really interested in audio, it is actually a
pretty cheap ride.

For people who want to be right as opposed to being correct, the recipe
is simple and repeated all over the web: Own a forum and ban everybody
who has a different opinion than you do. I know I'm in trouble when the
moderators themselves repeatedly make public posts  that personally
attack me. Obviously, there are issues of honesty and scientific
integrity at work!  

This process has an equivalent in the real world  where in business and
social organization some clever but not honest people work hard to
figure out who is going to give them (often well-deserved) disagreement,
and basically force them down and/or out rather than reconsider some of
their tightly held but potentially false beliefs. Thus, one can maintain
the self-deception that they are always right.


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