edwardthern wrote: > But having measurable proof, as sceptics require is not the end all be > all. Sometimes you can have a measurable difference but no real > perceptible audible difference and vise versa.
It is quite normal to have measurable differences that have no audible effect. It is also very common for people to think they hear differences when there are no measurable differences. The rational and scientific reaction is to verify if the people really can hear a difference, and there is a fairly simple and straightforward method for that - controlled, double-blind listening. > At the end of the day it's all subjective. No, it isn't. Preferences are subjective, but "can you tell if system X is the same as system A or system B?" is not. > Those who know, know that everything and anything can and does make a > difference.... Key word difference, not necessarily better. No, it doesn't. Not if the difference has to actually be audible. > And surely it's obvious the sceptics bully people on the audio forums > more than anyone. They hang up and drive people away. I've seen it a > million times and so have you if you're honest enough to admit it. That "surely" I guess is the same as "everybody knows" (which really means "I think, but can't prove")? I have seen audiophiles bully anyone trying to present measurements or rational arguments, and I have seen it far too often. It drives away people who actually know something about electronics and acoustics, and only leaves the faithful, who don't care if something is real or fairy dust, as long as it is "fun". "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105775 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
