drmatt wrote: 
> I don't disagree. But I am sure I can tell the difference.. therefore
> what differences there are must exist in that top 13 bits or so of
> dynamic range.. cue the sirens..
> 
> I doubt I could tell the difference with a frequency sweep though.

You have to test that sometime ?

When I was a card carrying audiophile I was utterly convinced that I did
hear differences everywhere .

Best case scenario is quite common , I think the exotic boutique hif is
more prone to weirdness . Normal midfi probably has robust line level
implementation. 
This the kind of things sites and audio press should test ? Not
listening to power cables .
It should be trivial to make a modern AV reciever perfectly transparent,
but they migth not be , the complexity of such product makes mistakes
likely and as they are complex to test ? Looks like work , better wax
about the life like presentation of some preamp :)

Example some dude had problems here years ago with distortion from his
squeezebox, turned out that his tube preamp clipped at 0.5 volt input ?
Some kind of  Manley product ! You can easily beat high boutique stuff
with chines DVD players from Walmart :) 
regarding performance .

Point is that it's well known electrical engineering . We miss out from
high end due their development process/marketing scam tactics ,sighted
eveluation and weird beliefs that disregard common best practice on how
to do stuff , instead make it complex and expensive and anachronistic.

Household products can be very good if the engineer bothered reading the
standard textbooks it does not really cost much to implement
soundquality due to readily aviable chipset and even design examples
from the factory, but most regular customers don't really care so it can
be there or not .
Kudos,to,the likes of oppo who does it good . And also kudos to the
cottage industry that builds HAT DAC's for PI , that's hifi at
reasonable prices 10-30k$ on a DAC is just silly .

Btw is not the Transporter very similar to the then current AKM
reference design ? With some help from the actual AKM engineers . I
respect the TP's fresh aproach to high end, it is a top class product it
was as expensive as squeezebox possibly needed to bee throwing more
money at it would not have improved the product . And yes why not ask
the chip manufacturer about how to best use thier products :)
For giggles Google all the old treads with people modding the TP (
making it worse ) swapping capacitors and sticking tubes into it.



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