drmatt wrote: 
> This is it, is got to be too simplistic to say they all sound the same.
> 

Well they don't *all* sound the same, but the vast majority of them do.

> 
> I am inclined to think that all DAC chips *can* sound the same -
> assuming they have equal quality power supplies and are driving a
> particularly easy load, but that's not the real world.
> 

All DAC chips don't sound the same, just the ones that are well-designed
and are designed to be sonically transparent.

> 
> Last time I did listening tests it took some pretty sorry crap for
> example the DAC in a CD-ROM dri for its headphone jack, to actually be
> bad enough to sound difference. Through about 2005 it was possible to
> find PC's that had bad enough DACs to actually sound bad, but now it
> takes some substandard design of the PC layout on the motherboard  to
> make them sound difference, and the difference is usually obvious stuff
> like hum and noise.
> 


The idea DACs need special attention in the power supply or line driver
department to sound right is an audiophile myth.

It would be fun to set up a good listening test at a high end hi fi show
and watch all the self-important owners of expensive DACs learn the
truth. I doubt that they would let me rent a booth, as the outcome would
be a disaster for the big financial interests.


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