iPhone wrote: > . > . > Hello Antonio, > > "Gear Fitting" as you call it, IE matching separates for one of four > reason (price, sound, better half demands, or a combination of the first > three) takes many paths. For most of us, price plays a huge part in this > process plus what sounds good to one's own ears (all ears are shaped > differently and some are more sensitive then others). I am of the option > that the majority of one's HiFi Dollars need to go toward quality > Speakers. I say this for two main reasons, firstly having the best > source device, pre-amp, and amplifier are all wasted if the output > devices, one's speakers, are crap! No matter how great one's front is, > it can't make up for speakers that are poor quality, will not accurately > reproduce what is sent to them, and last are of a poor design that > actually adds artifacts or colors what they are being presented. > Secondly, if the majority (half to two thirds) of one's HiFi budget is > spent on quality Speakers knowing that they are fairly expensive and > hence a major expense to upgrade or replace (don't know anybody that > upgraded to a "Better" pair of speakers that cost less then the pair > they replaced), one can buy good source and amplification knowing that > those will be the pieces upgraded in the future trying to caught up to > the upper most ability of the speakers originally purchased. I have been > making this journey for decades repeating the process as I moved up the > HiFi quality ladder and this HiFi building/upgrading model has severed > me well. I am almost there as soon as I have saved enough money to > purchase my ultimate Pre-Amplifier. > > Interconnects, power cords, and speaker cables are important, but good > quality that works properly in where to spend the money on these, not in > fancy covers or looks, nor on over priced hype. Properly setup, 4 coat > hangers can sound just as good as $5000 speaker cables! So again, don't > waste large sums of money on outrageous speaker cables and interconnects > when good quality engineered ones do the exact same job as $25,000 > cryogenic silver speaker cables! > . > . Hi iPhone, thank you for your post. I agree with all you're saying but I'm not sure you see what I mean, I was not clear. I don't mean choosing (very) good speakers for a good amp, I agree it's not right to buy an expensive amplifier or dac when speakers are poor. I still agree with you, they are the most important components. I will speak about my (limited) experience: last time (a long time ago) I bought my amp and speakers, I bought it at the same shop. In the auditorium I first choose the best speakers that I listened with my own music in my budget, then I tried the different amps and selected two of them, one luxman and a Denon, they were about the same price, but the Denon was a noticeably better. Then I tried the luxman and the denon with another pair of speakers, Cabasse speakers, a little pricier (Cabasse was very famous in France in the past). The Luxman was better than the Denon with the Cabasse, but Cabasse was very good with Classical music but poor with other styles of music, and I'm not very found of classical. According to the salesman, it's because Cabasse where more defined than the speakers I preferred, then they fitted better with the Luxman, that was less defined than the Denon (ie A high defined amp fits well with less defined speakers and vice-versa). So my question is: don't you think it's better to try to listen at least the amp and the speakers together, just to hear if they fit well ? or is it just an illusion I had. Of course, sound appreciation is very subjective, one can be influenced by the look of the gear (must be killing), flattering reviews, the price (the higher is the better), a friend who said that gear was fantastic, an advice on amazon from someone who was an expert, or the reputation of the brand, and realize some days later, with time, at home, that we just don't like the sound of it. That happened to me recently. A good thing that we have in France, by the way, is that when we buy on the internet we have 2 weeks to change our mind, we can send back the gear and get the money back, we'll pay only the transport. If you buy in a shop, you usually only have your tears to cry.
I agree about the cords, I don't see the point paying 1000 euros for an electric cable, even if it's the best electric cable in the world, since all the other cables in the area are just average honest electric cables. LMS 7.9.0 on Linux Mageia 5 and RPI 3 1 SB3, 2 radio, 1 touch Plugins : Trackstat, Smartmix, MusicIP, ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Antoniop's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107946 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
