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Kevin,
Your point is well taken however you must tread lightly. Following is part of the Netiquette guidelines for AuditNet:
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If you cross the line and use this list for soliciting business then your posting privileges will be suspended.
JK
At 01:56 PM 10/10/02 -0400, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote:
You ll notice that is why I did not include name address and phone number. AuditNet.org is meant to be a vehicle for ANYONE with an interest in the subject matter to share information that may be of interest to the group. That is all I have done.Audit Leverage is a department management software package that integrates and automates the entire audit process. This comprehensive package includes risk assessment, audit planning, budgeting, staffing, scheduling, timekeeping, automated work papers, audit findings & recommendations, reporting and audit follow-up. Audit Leverage allows auditors in the field to work off-line and dial in to synchronize their work with the Audit Leverage database on the network, enabling managers to review the work papers instantly without being at the job site.
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From: Kronzer, Lance - City Auditor [mailto:kronzelj@;ci.richmond.va.us]
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 1:54 PM
To: 'Kevin J. McCarthy'; 'Jessica Wilhoite'
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Internal Audit Survey/Feedback Tools
Was auditnet.org meant to be a vehicle for 'gratis' advertising of our services?
Lance J. Kronzer, CPA
900 E. Broad St - Rm. 806
Richmond (VA) City Auditor
804-646-5640
-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin J. McCarthy [mailto:kmccarthy@;project-control.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 1:29 PM
To: 'Jessica Wilhoite'
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Internal Audit Survey/Feedback Tools
Some of the issues raised here are part of the reason my company, as an independent consulting firm that specializes in audit controls, has specifically begun marketing a program designed to assist companies in complying with Sarbanes-Oxley. We are also in the process of seeking information from the underwriters of D&O (Director's and Officers) insurance, to determine if they would be willing to offer a premium discount to companies that have their internal audit controls reviewed by a totally independent consultant.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jessica Wilhoite [mailto:jwilhoite@;firstcolumbiabank.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 1:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; pgoldmann
Subject: Re: Internal Audit Survey/Feedback Tools
That's a very good question. I'm sure that almost every auditor wants to make sure they cover their a__. I think the culture of auditing has changed and communication is the most important tool to use. The clients should be asked that question regardless of what kind of institution you work for. It creates accountability. If there is fraud in the client's books and records, and the client agreed that the reviewing and reporting was properly completed and communicated, the auditor shouldn't worry about such accusations. Unfortunately it this isn't a true and just world so the decision is up to the individual auditor and their assessment of what kind of risk they want to take by asking that question.
I guess I really didn't answer the question, but those are my thoughts.
Jessica Wilhoite
First Columbia Bank & Trust Co.
Bloomsburg, PA 17815
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From: <mailto:pgoldmann@;boardroom.com>pgoldmann
To: <mailto:audit-l@;list.auditnet.org>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 12:09 PM
Subject: Fwd: Internal Audit Survey/Feedback Tools
Michael, Lance and others:
In reading your posts, I wondered if the client performance evaluations you're referring to could have an anti-fraud function as well. In other words, could clients be asked if they feel the auditor's reporting and verbal communication convey the message that they have performed their duties with especially close attention to possible fraud in the client's books and records? It seems to me that in today's climate, auditors would want to be covered against accusations from clients who down the road get investigated for fraud that "It was the auditor's fault".
Any thoughts?
Status: U
From: "Morrow, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Internal Audit Survey/Feedback Tools
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:55:15 -0400
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<?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>I am looking for organizations that have been successful in implementing a tool to have clients objectively evaluate internal audits. I want to include a "soup to nuts" approach including how the engagement was handled, the effectiveness of the auditor(s) assigned to it, the actual added-value and impacts made as a result of the work, etc. My objectives are to use this as a tool for evaluating individual auditor performance as well as benching successes/improvement areas for each engagement.
I appreciate your willingness to share your successes on this issue. Thanks!
<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><?color><?param 0000,0000,8080>G. Michael Morrow<?fontfamily><?param Arial>, CISA
<?smaller>Director, Audit Services
Carolinas HealthCare System
1316 East Morehead Street
Charlotte, NC 28204
(704) 355-6651 office (704) 355-8011 fax
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