That is a strong stance!  I teach some BCP Courses and sat on a panel for
BCP at this years MIS Exp, and I have to concur with Jim.  Project
Management takes on far to encompassing of a role: designing the project
content, what gets done and what does not - let alone how it gets done.  I
suggest being the consultant, the sounding board.  I take my audit program
with me to ensure that control points are addressed and/or risks passed
upwards for acceptance.  I would fear the point the Plan needs to be used
(1) because the back-up structure designed by the auditor failed or (2) the
plan is ineffective.  The management of the project (in my opinion) needs to
lye with the who you would hold responsible when it fails.

Where I absolutely DO think the auditor needs to be involved at the detail
level is in the planning of the project - the scope definition.  There are
few other people in most of our org's that have training in the area of Risk
and are as well informed of the our business objectives - more so than some
Exec Mgmt Team members!

Great topic!

Paul Hugenberg III, C.I.S.A.
Regional Manager/Information Technology Audit Officer
Sky Financial Group
60 East Main Street
Salineville, Ohio 43945
(330) 679-2328 ext. 2190
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-----Original Message-----
From: Rychalski, Joseph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 9:41 AM
To: 'Kaplan, Jim'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Business contingency recovery planning participations


First time for everything.  I think I actually might disagree with  you Jim.
Like I said to Jessica, as long as there is an independent auditor assigned
to the project, I think the Audit department can absolutely perform the task
of project managing the business continuity program.  This program is not
operational in nature and independence neither improves nor affects the
final results.

Interesting topic of conversation.

Joe

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-----Original Message-----
From: Kaplan, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 9:20 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Business contingency recovery planning participations


Jessica,

The American Association of State Compensation Insurance Funds web site has
an excellent article entitled "The Internal Auditor's Role in Disaster
Recovery". According to the article auditors can play a critical role in
disaster recovery planning. 
They can (1) assist with the risk analysis during plan development, (2)
critically evaluate the plan after it has been drawn up, and (3) provide
assurance that the plan is being kept up to date through regular audits. 
They would be providing this service in their consultative role. The
complete article can be found at:
www.aascif.org/public/archive/Spring02/spring02_3.2.14.1.htm

IMO the key word above is "assist". I would think that the auditor would be
there to advise rather than direct the project as it could impair the
internal auditor's independence. 
 
Regarding your second question, the AuditNet Audit Work Programs section
contains 5 audit programs/ICQs on disaster recovery or business resumption
planning. 

Hope this helps!
>  
[Kaplan, Jim]  

> -----Original Message-----
> From:         Jessica Khoo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 3:03 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Business contingency recovery planning participations
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Can anyone shed some light regarding the following queries:-
> 
> a.    Is there any lack of independence if an internal auditor is being
> included as also a member in the planning of the company's business
> resumption plan?
> 
> b.    Has anyone a comprehensive business contingency audit review
> programme to share? Do I also need to include a audit review procedure for
> action to be taken during     an actual disaster - a procedure to include
> before, during and after scenario?
> 
> Thank you very much for your attention.
> 
> Regards
> Jessica Khoo
> Singapore
> 

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