Ranguvar wrote:
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 19:27, Allan McRae <[email protected]> wrote:

bardo wrote:

Hi all.
Recently I've been having fun with the latest pulseaudio quirk: it
doesn't build because of the --as-needed flag in linking. I don't
understand linking in depth, but as I understood it there's some
dependency cycle that gets triggered by the aforementioned ld flag.
However this doesn't happen when building in a chroot, where the
package builds fine.

It isn't the only package where it happens, and I have a handful of
questions about the correct way to handle this.

1. If something like this happens, is it an upstream bug?
2. If it builds fine in a chroot there's obviously a software that
triggers the bug, does it mean I am missing a dependency?
3. If a package builds inside a chroot but not outside, should it be
changed in such a way that it builds everywhere regardless of the
changes that are to be made? Or should it be left as it is, and
related bugs closed with "build it in a chroot"?
4. What does the absence of the ld flag imply in practical terms? Is
it just a "nice to have" or has it some real implications?


It is probably an addition dep (optional) that is being detected on your
system and causing the failure.  Personally, I would build in a chroot and
ignore the issue.  There are plenty of packages that should only be built in
a chroot due to issues similar to this and _ALL_ packages should be built in
one anyway.

Allan


Shouldn't a PKGBUILD try to cover all potential normal Arch setups, though?

If it is known that a package conflicts with the build, and it can't be
traced to the
individual package so it can be added in conflicts() (or we may not want it
there),
then I think the PKGBUILD should be modified to work in all common
scenarios.


I looks like pulse-audio will link to itself and that causes issues with --as-needed. Heimdal had (has?) the same issue so had something like this in the PKGBUILD:

[ -e /usr/lib/libasn1.so ] && echo "## remove old heimdal pkg first ##" && return 1

If pulse-audio only fails to build when pulse-audio is present, a line like that in the PKGBUILD will solve all problems. Or just a comment at the top like the current heimdal package:

#
### Attention: remove old pkg before building - it links against itself! ###
#

Allan

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