Am Mittwoch, 14. Oktober 2026, 10:56:52 Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit schrieb 
Michael Kogan:
> Am Mi., 14. Okt. 2026 um 10:28 Uhr schrieb Maarten de Vries <
> 
> [email protected]>:
> > On 10/14/26 10:21, Kaur Männamaa wrote:
> > > Hi
> > > 
> > > I get the pragmatism. I am not sure, though, that keeping the user
> > > subscribed wouldn't have taught them anything.
> > > 
> > > The lesson they could have learnt here is that throwing a temper
> > > tantrum & threatening people is not a good strategy. As an added
> > > bonus, they might have learnt how to unsubscribe (or use a search
> > > engine) :)
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Kaur
> > > 
> > > 14.10.26 11:09 Maarten de Vries kirjutas:
> > >> On 10/14/26 09:24, Kaur Männamaa wrote:
> > >>> Hi
> > >>> 
> > >>> Thanks. However, I consider the manual unsubscribing a mistake. No
> > >>> requests made using such tone should be granted, particularly if to
> > >>> consider that the art of leaving a mailing list isn't exactly rocket
> > >>> science.
> > >>> 
> > >>> I would have loved to see the 'complaint' made 'to the relevant
> > >>> authority' in this matter.
> > >>> 
> > >>> If there have recently been technical difficulties that have
> > >>> prevented users from unsubscribing then that's another matter.
> > >>> Still, that would in no way justify the tone.
> > >>> 
> > >>> Kaur
> > >> 
> > >> The tone is indeed not justified, but it's okay to be pragmatic when
> > >> managing a mailing a list. Keeping the user on the list won't do
> > >> anyone any good.
> > >> 
> > >> -- Maarten
> > 
> > I suppose that may have happened. Another possibility is that it would
> > have resulted in more emails with unjustified angry contents to darken
> > our moods. Maybe I have too little faith in this person, but I certainly
> > appreciate the preemptive resolution of the problem ^_^
> > 
> > Anyway, enjoy your time of day it currently is in your local timezone!
> > 
> > Kind regards,
> > Maarten de Vries
> 
> Not sure if this would be technically  possible, but I think that appending
> a single line of text like "To unsubscribe send a mail with arbitrary
> subject and body to [email protected]" as some kind of
> signature/footer to any mail sent by [email protected] would
> solve the issue. A brief research tells that this could be achieved by a
> mailman template, but I haven't tested it.

As a long time maintainer of a local mailing list I had to learn, that there 
are many user mail clients around, which don't show any signatures / footers 
by default. So this may help some people to unsubsrcribe, but certainly not 
all of them. I suspect there is a connection between a lack of knowledge about 
how to use mailing lists and the use of such clients.

I'm also on the "just unscubcribe people manually" side - you don't change 
people by acting as bad tempered as them, you just harm yourself and your 
community.


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