On 8/02/16 10:42 AM, "ECKEY, BERNARD" <[email protected]> wrote: Our reply hereund
You have never subscribed so why all the bull s........ Regardless of what you say please explain to readers why the sailplane was on the German register as an ASH25 EB28. End of story! JOHN > Good morning John > > One would think that an editor worthy of that description would know the > difference between the EB 28 > and an ASH 25 and correct such basic mistakes even if they have appeared in a > report. The integration > in the name of the EB28 is just an acknowledgement of the ³father status' of > the ASH 25 plus a bit of > clever marketing. > > Such lazy journalism has every potential to badly affect a manufacturer¹s hard > earned reputation. The > other option available to you was to make a corresponding comment for those > who are not in the know. > Or is it possible that you just want to sell magazines and just don¹t care? > Whatever the case may be, > there is never a good enough effort to get facts and details properly checked > before the magazine goes > to print! > I no longer subscribe to your tabloid magazine as there have been by far too > many occasions where I > have come across poorly researched half truth articles and where proper facts > and figures are never > allowed to get in the way of a juicy story. > > If you like, I can elaborate! > > Kind regards > > Bernard > > > >> On 8 Feb 2016, at 7:17 AM, John Roake <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Re: [Aus-soaring] MID-AIR BREAK-UP (John Roake) >> On 8/02/16 9:33 AM, "ECKEY, BERNARD" <[email protected] >> <x-msg://10/[email protected]> > wrote: Our reply hereunder: >> >> >> The official accident report clearly designates the glider as an ASH25 EB28 >> as does the German registration of the sailplane. >> >> John >> >> >> >>> Good morning Peter, hello all >>> >>> It is very disappointing that John Roake¹s advertisement indicates that an >>> ASH 25 was involved in >>> this tragic accident and the untimely death of two of my friends. >>> >>> It was a Binder EB 28 and not an ASH 25 that seems to have broken up mid >>> air. These two gliders >>> are made by two different manufacturers and the only thing they have in >>> common is that the EB 28 >>> fuselage is a slightly enlarged copy of the ASH 25 fuselage. >>> >>> Pity that the usual lazy journalism hasn¹t bothered to filter out this >>> unimportant detail. >>> >>> Kind regards to all >>> >>> Bernard >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 7 Feb 2016, at 1:25 PM, Peter Brookman <[email protected] >>>> <x-msg://10/[email protected]> > wrote: >>>> >>>> I agree with Bob, that any accident related to gliding the reports are >>>> important that we are for one reminded of the consequences of things that >>>> may go wrong , although sad that it is about people, friends who >>>> unfortunately lost their lives. We would all know some one close to us who >>>> has either died or serious injury from accidents, but we must have the >>>> information and conclusions as to the causes etc to be better pilots etc in >>>> the future. >>>> Gliding International is a fantastic magazine and full of relivent and >>>> interesting articles. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Peter Brookman >>>> >>>> From: Bob Ward <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 6:55 PM >>>> To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] MID-AIR BREAK-UP (John Roake) >>>> >>>> Brian and Richard, >>>> >>>> Billy and Dave were friends of mine also, and of John as well, as evidenced >>>> by his sensitive article in a previous issue about the enormous >>>> contribution of Bill to the NZ gliding movement, and in particular to >>>> Omarama. >>>> Personally I have been waiting for a report on this apparent mid air break >>>> up. Have not most glider pilots, indeed? >>>> If Gliding International is the first publication to have the report, well >>>> good on John and his team! >>>> I think that John Roake is perfectly entitled to advise Australian Gliding >>>> membership of this very welcome report. >>>> I read John¹s post before I read yours, and was in no way offended that he >>>> was using the deaths of respected NZ glider pilots to promote his magazine. >>>> John, just be realistic. It is impossible to not offend someone if you have >>>> a commercial interest and choose to post on the often petty Aus Soaring >>>> site! I suspect that Bernard Eccy would agree. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Bob Ward >>>> >>>> From: Brian Savage <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 1:46 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> <x-msg://10/[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] MID-AIR BREAK-UP (John Roake) >>>> >>>> John, >>>> >>>> I notice that you are using the death of two of my friends to market your >>>> magazine. >>>> >>>> Nice touch. >>>> >>>> Brian Savage >>>> >>>> On 6 February 2016 at 14:30, <[email protected] >>>> <x-msg://10/[email protected]> > wrote: >>>>> Send Aus-soaring mailing list submissions to >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> <x-msg://10/[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>>> http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring >>>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> <x-msg://10/[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> <x-msg://10/[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>>> than "Re: Contents of Aus-soaring digest..." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Today's Topics: >>>>> >>>>> 1. MID-AIR BREAK-UP (John Roake) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> Message: 1 >>>>> Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2016 14:22:07 +1300 >>>>> From: John Roake <[email protected] <x-msg://10/[email protected]> > >>>>> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." >>>>> <[email protected] >>>>> <x-msg://10/[email protected]> > >>>>> Subject: [Aus-soaring] MID-AIR BREAK-UP >>>>> Message-ID: <mailto:d2dbb20f.3f5b1%[email protected]> >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>>> >>>>>> > We are reproducing an English Version of the just out official Namibian >>>>>> > Accident report that resulted in the death of two New Zealanders in >>>>>> November >>>>>> > 2014. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > They have declared that the ASH25 EB28 broke-up in mid-air, but there >>>>>> were >>>>>> > other contributing factors which are spelt out in detail. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > The full report is in the new edition of Gliding International due out >>>>>> in a >>>>>> > few days. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > New subscribers can effect a subscription and copy via our Web page. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > JOHN ROAKE, EDITOR >>>>>> > GLIDING INTERNATIONAL. >>>>> >>>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>>> URL: >>>>> <http://lists.base64.com.au/private/aus-soaring/attachments/20160206/9ea25 >>>>> ad7/attachment.html> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Subject: Digest Footer >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Aus-soaring mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> <x-msg://10/[email protected]> >>>>> http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> End of Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 4, Issue 3 >>>>> ***************************************** >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Aus-soaring mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> <x-msg://10/[email protected]> >>>> http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Aus-soaring mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> <x-msg://10/[email protected]> >>>> http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring >>>> >>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email> This email has been sent from a >>>> virus-free computer protected by Avast. >>>> www.avast.com <http://www.avast.com> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Aus-soaring mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> <x-msg://10/[email protected]> >>>> http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Aus-soaring mailing list >>> [email protected] <x-msg://10/[email protected]> >>> http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring >> _______________________________________________ >> Aus-soaring mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring
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