>From my observations, circuit finishes happen most often with novice
competition pilots who are not yet comfortable with straight-ins and /
or unable to fine-tune the final glide arriving with too much
altitude.
Sometimes you may also see this when the designated duty runway  is
so congested that it is safer to join the circuit to an alternative
runway. 
Regards 
Jarek

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RE: [Aus-soaring] Potential dangers in the sport of gliding

        Yeah, it can happen, but only on good blue days, when your normal
inter-thermal glide speed is about 100 knots or so, and you are
already on, or close to, final glide . If your VNE is say 135 knots,
and  you find/stumble upon a nice energy line in the blue, you can be
at VNE surprisingly quickly. On Cu days, you can usually allow for
this by looking well ahead, starting the final glide early, and
gradually pulling up under the clouds onto the optimal final glide
path.

        Gary

         

        FROM: Aus-soaring [mailto:[email protected]] ON
BEHALF OF Richard Frawley
SENT: Friday, 4 March 2016 11:49 AM
TO: M-12148 Mosiejewski, Jaroslaw; Discussion of issues relating to
Soaring in Australia.
SUBJECT: Re: [Aus-soaring] Potential dangers in the sport of gliding

         

        expect for the rare occasion, if you come in with that much energy on
final glide in a comp, then you screwed up the planning of the final
glide

         

         

         

        On 4 Mar 2016, at 11:42 AM, Jarek Mosiejewski <[email protected]
[1]> wrote:

         

        There are no low level finished in the comps, the vast majority of
comp finishes are straight-ins which are really long finals.  The
rest, for people who have too much energy for a straight in, they are
regular circuits.
Most comps explicitly forbid low level, high energy finishes (aka bit
ups).
Regards 

Jarek

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On Mar 4, 2016, at 11:14 AM, DMcD <[email protected] [4]> wrote:

         

        It's probable that the
statistics overall are not enough to prove anything one way or
another.

         

        Well, sure, you could give strong-feelings-and-make-believe a try if
you want, but if you can’t baseline a “before” and “after”
picture I’m not sure how you’ll work out whether or not you’ve
advanced the state of the art.

         

        There have been a significant number of accidents and fatalities in
the last few years during comps which were related a style of flying
which is unique to comps… low finishes. 

         

        Is that a true statement?

         

        This type of accident is rare or non-existent outside comp flying.

         

        Is that a true statement?

         

          
- mark

         

         

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