"Pilliga greens" LOL !

Mike


At 03:09 PM 3/4/2016, you wrote:

Oh god, the drugs are really kicking in now Richard, these ones are called the Pilliga greens, please stop I think I might split .


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On 4 Mar 2016, at 13:33, Richard Frawley <<mailto:rjfraw...@gmail.com>rjfraw...@gmail.com> wrote:

yes, it is recommended that all budding and novice Comp pilots complete a Speedweek or similar before their first Comp.

when Paul Mander runs Speedweek there is emphasis is on Comp preparation. Final Glides and FG planning is part of that. A great place with a structured low stress environment to learn and practice these key aspects.



On 4 Mar 2016, at 2:26 PM, Jarek Mosiejewski <<mailto:jar...@optusnet.com.au>jar...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

From my observations, circuit finishes happen most often with novice competition pilots who are not yet comfortable with straight-ins and / or unable to fine-tune the final glide arriving with too much altitude. Sometimes you may also see this when the designated duty runway is so congested that it is safer to join the circuit to an alternative runway.
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Jarek

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Yeah, it can happen, but only on good blue days, when your normal inter-thermal glide speed is about 100 knots or so, and you are already on, or close to, final glide . If your VNE is say 135 knots, and you find/stumble upon a nice energy line in the blue, you can be at VNE surprisingly quickly. On Cu days, you can usually allow for this by looking well ahead, starting the final glide early, and gradually pulling up under the clouds onto the optimal final glide path.

Gary



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expect for the rare occasion, if you come in with that much energy on final glide in a comp, then you screwed up the planning of the final glide







On 4 Mar 2016, at 11:42 AM, Jarek Mosiejewski <<mailto:jar...@optusnet.com.au>jar...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:



There are no low level finished in the comps, the vast majority of comp finishes are straight-ins which are really long finals. The rest, for people who have too much energy for a straight in, they are regular circuits.
Most comps explicitly forbid low level, high energy finishes (aka bit ups).
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Jarek


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On Mar 4, 2016, at 11:14 AM, DMcD <<mailto:slutsw...@gmail.com>slutsw...@gmail.com> wrote:



It's probable that the
statistics overall are not enough to prove anything one way or
another.



Well, sure, you could give strong-feelings-and-make-believe a try if you want, but if you can’t baseline a “before” and “after” picture I’m not sure how you’ll work out whether or not you’ve advanced the state of the art.



There have been a significant number of accidents and fatalities in
the last few years during comps which were related a style of flying
which is unique to comps… low finishes.



Is that a true statement?



This type of accident is rare or non-existent outside comp flying.



Is that a true statement?



  - mark





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