Hi Ben There are a large number of proprietary and approved patient lift hoists available in the Australian market that work well. On uneven terrain the use of ground boards greatly facilitates their use. Having spent time at both Ulster and Portmoak to become familiar with hand controlled ASK21's before I started the SoarAbility venture, and with a great deal of experience lifting folk in and out of gliders and the simulator since then; you might like to call me sometime. I am also very conversant with the particular lifts used at the Irish and Scottish sites.
I have designed and built my own lifts as well. Both for "in-hangar"and "off-field use". And without being cavalier, the one comment I might make on liability is that the pursuit of "risk free is the riskiest undertaking of all". With good supervision and care, the potential for a lifting accident is greatly diminished or negated. Knowing a little about your trainee or AEF aspirant's underlying condition all helps to better load them into a glider with care: and dignity. The latter is very important too. What you need if you are really serious about flying disabled folk is the courage to make a difference despite the perceived risks, and also realise that folk with mobility challenges are a lot more enabled and independent than most people give them credit for. And they are wonderful at supervising their own lifting in and out of aircraft. Trust me on that one. And I have lifted folk who are completely immobile, and or need to be immobilised once in the aircraft. The great thing about doing it in Australia is the practical approach the GFA take in respect to parachutes. You have not really understood lifting risk and or the capacity to exacerbate an underlying condition until you have tried to put a parachute on to a totally immobile person, then place them into a lifting harness and then strap them into a glider. Then reverse the whole process. That is the reality of flying disabled people in the UK, or at least it was when I was at Portmoak five years ago. Give me a call sometime, or come visit us in WA. Can probably answer all your concerns, or at the very least; put you on the right path for further discovery. Regards Damien: Founder SoarAbility. 0448 191 108 Sent from my iPad > On 17 May 2016, at 11:57 am, <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Guys > > We recently flew a lady with MS who brought her own hoist. Basically a quad > pod (a 4 legged tripod) with a block and tackle and a sling. Hoisted the lady > up rolled the glider under and lowered her down. Worked well but for any > commercial operation it fails for certification in the advent of something > going amiss and the passenger being injured. > > We are looking to see how we would certify such a device but I do have > concerns over liability for and injury as a result of mishandling or other. > > Regs > Ben > > Get Outlook for Android > > > > On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 12:19 AM -0700, "Alan Monroe" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > The Ulster Gliding club has a ASK21 converted to allow disabled to fly. Might > be worth checking with them. Link to website is > http://www.ulsterglidingclub.org/ > > Al > > > On 9 May 2016 at 07:27, Laurie Hoffman <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi All, > > Does anyone know of any club using a disability hoist to assist with glider > access. > > Regards > Laurie Hoffman > > > > From: Peter Champness <[email protected]> > To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, 25 April 2016, 21:16 > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] The Golden Age > > James, > > No I did not understand what Emilis wrote. But I am interested! > > Intervention by Government or DO GOODER PEOPLE is always bad in my > philosophy. It goes against the interests of the INDIVUAL which should be > the highest principle. That takes us into high level philosophy. > > I hope that this will find some resonance with gliding people, who are very > likely independent thinkers. > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 8:57 PM, James McDowall <[email protected]> > wrote: > Emilis, > I understood what you wrote but did anyone else? After years of working in > the building industry and experiencing first hand post bushfire bureaucracy I > have come to the conclusion that "affordable housing" is a confusion in > terms. The stringencies of the ABCB, however well intentioned are driving up > building costs. There is a lesson here for all forms of recreational aviation. > Jim > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 9:50 AM, emillis prelgauskas > <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you Gary, > I fully concur that memory adds rose to the glasses. > > I am drilling a bit deeper, based on my fire ground and court work. > In all fields of activity, there are prescriptive rules and these are > vehemently applied > and defended by some. > In many fields of activity it has since been demonstrated that ‘one size fits > all’ > creates more problems than it solves. > That doesn’t stop the ‘fixed rules’ crowd from trying to forget about > alternate solutions. > > fire ground example: “No, you can’t build a new replacement home where your > existing home was burnt > down by the bushfire; because the rules have changed and we don’t permit that > sort of thing now”. > > In these fields the primacy of good human outcomes results in ‘alternate > solutions’ which can then be applied: > “The new build will have a shelter to ABCB guidelines, fire resistant > construction to AS3959 and siting > maintenance/fire fighting capability to Minister’s Spec SA78 - i.e. this is > permitted.” > > Gliding is still travelling down that path of recognising that better > outcomes come from a baseline of > prescriptive ‘deemed-to-satisfy’ provisions with higher order alternate > solutions above this. > (The Building Code of Australia categorises 3 such layers in its industry, > with ‘expert judgement’ > at the top of the pyramid.) > > Emilis > > > On 24 Apr 2016, at 9:11 pm, Gary Stevenson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Emilis, on consideration, I do not entirely agree with your recent comments. > > Golden ages live in our memories, but (fortunately/unfortunately), memories > > are fallable. In any case, all that you refer has passed ..for ever. > > > > As always, NOW is the time to seize the moment > > > > Let me suggest to you and to everyone else who is a member of this forum, > > that the reality of gliding in Australia today .... right now ...... is that > > we are living in an era WHERE THIS IT IS AS GOOD AS IT IS EVER GOING TO GET. > > > > THIS is the golden age. > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > > > -- > Regards, > > > Alan Monroe > 0417 692 851 > Hobbies website > View my YouTube videos here > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring
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