Hi Noel.

Thanks for your interest.
Mike Burns: “I designed the modification, provided a full set of drawings and 
arranged for some jigs to be made, (no idea where they are now) then the 
sailplanes were modified by the owners.”
There are possibly up to 4 conversions around the country. I will let you know 
when I ascertain them.
I am assisting the US of A chap with info at present.
Wing of #58 was ‘cut’ in US of A and looks a rough job.
Wing may be repairable. Cath Conway is looking into that.
A very historically important aircraft for Australian gliding but few would 
care.
So was there another Arrow before #58? Interesting! Are you sure?

Regards

Chris


From: Noel Roediger 
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2016 8:54 PM
To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' 
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Schneider ES-59 Arrow

Hi Chris.

 

Spent some of yesterday with Harry and asked about a two piece winged Arrow as 
I couldn’t recall any such type being produced by ES pty ltd.

 

He said all were produced with a one piece wing.

 

Who modified them to two wings?

 

I suspect Doug Vanstan!!

 

Neither of us has any knowledge of such a type and we’d appreciate info.

 

Purely by chance I received an email from a bloke in SFO asking info on s/n 58 
Arrow which he saved from landfill. Fuselage, rudder and tailplane are 
restorable but he reckons the wing is irreparable.

 

That Arrow was the first production model.  It was test flown at Gawler by 
Harry and then packed in a crate and sent to Argentina for Jack Iggulden to fly 
in the world comps.

 

I recall it was purchased by Al Leffler and shipped to the USA from Argentina.

 

The ASC purchased the first ES 59 which was written off after it spun in from a 
cable break.

 

The Argentine Arrow was next and I can’t remember the sequential purchasers in 
order but they were DDGC, Navy, GGC, Pt. Augusta and Barossa.

 

Noel

From: Aus-soaring [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Christopher McDonnell
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2016 7:08 AM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Schneider ES-59 Arrow

 

Thanks. Not idle curiosity.

 

Chris

 

From: Gary Stevenson 

Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:42 PM

To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' 

Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Schneider ES-59 Arrow

 

Chris,

PK has a two piece wing. Other than that, I don’t know, and I don’t really 
care. Maybe there are 6 of them? Why do you want the information anyway? 
Suggest that you give Roy a call .... if your query is more than just idle 
curiosity. 

Cheers,

Gary

 

 

From: Aus-soaring [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Christopher McDonnell
Sent: Friday, 5 August 2016 9:50 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Schneider ES-59 Arrow

 

That glider is in Victoria Gary. Are you sure? My info is it is a Qld glider 
GNK. Are there 2 then?

 

Cheers

 

Chris

 

From: Gary Stevenson 

Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 9:33 PM

To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' 

Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Schneider ES-59 Arrow

 

Chris,

VH-GPK. Owner details on the CASA site are current.

Gary

 

From: Aus-soaring [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Christopher McDonnell
Sent: Friday, 5 August 2016 7:28 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Aus-soaring] Schneider ES-59 Arrow

 

There are 6 of the above registered.

Does anybody know which one has the two piece wing.

Approval documentation for the modification would be a bonus but I will not 
hold my breath.

 

Cheers

 

Chris


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