Oh fer chrissakes !

BTW is web shorthand for "by the way"

The Kookaburra IIRC ( if I remember correctly ) was VH-GHS blown over and then 
de rigged and stored in the open a year or more ago when I saw it. This would 
have been in the 1980s and the reason I was interested is that I was getting a 
new glider and GFA couldn't be bothered getting any decent non awkward regos 
from CASA. Another fine example of GFA "service".
The next glider I put on the register, I went to the CASA register people who 
very helpfully faxed me all the available ones and told me to choose one I 
liked and they would assign it to the GFA which I did and they did.

Mike



> On 2 Feb 2017, at 7:46 AM, Peter Brookman <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> BTW
> 
> Manufacturer:
> PIPER AIRCRAFT CORP
> Model:
> PA-34-200
> Serial number:
> 34-7450107
> Engine type:
> Piston
> No of engines:
> 2
> Aircraft first registered in Australia:
> 3 June 1974
> Year of manufacture:
> 1974
> Registration holder:
> TISDALL BTW PTY LTD U 2 224 Qantas Ave ARCHERFIELD QLD 4108 Australia
> Registration holder commencement date:
> 9 May 2016
> Registered operator:
> FLIGHT ONE (SERVICES) PTY LTD 224 Qantas Ave ARCHERFIELD QLD 4108 Australia
> Registered operator commencement date:
> 9 May 2016
>  
> From: Mike Borgelt
> Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 11:39 PM
> To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW
>  
> That was an hour or two after finding one that had been blown over out the 
> back of a hangar a couple of years before. It was still on the register. A 
> Kookaburra BTW.
>  
> Mike
> 
>> On 1 Feb 2017, at 9:07 PM, Mike Borgelt <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I've pushed a hangar door open and had pieces of a glider still on the 
>> register fall out of the rafters
>>  
>> Mike
>> 
>>> On 1 Feb 2017, at 9:02 PM, Mark Newton <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Registration doesn’t expire, so an aircraft stays on the register even if 
>>> it’s wrecked in a blown-over trailer in a corner of a gliding field that 
>>> its deceased owner hasn’t visited for ten years.
>>>  
>>> The real point of interest is the number of form-2 kits the GFA sells each 
>>> year.
>>>  
>>> Mandy Temple’s “Mande-news” on June 10 last year included an extract from 
>>> the GFA’s Salesforce database, which said there were 738 gliders with a 
>>> current form-2 as of that date.
>>>  
>>> So - slightly over half of the total number of registered gliders are 
>>> airworthy.
>>>  
>>> The same extract said 2584 members flew GFA aircraft for 115,100 hours from 
>>> 68,200 launches in 2015-16 (based on form-2 returns).  That means every 
>>> airworthy GFA aircraft averaged 156 hours and 92 launches, making the 
>>> average GFA aircraft flight 102 minutes long.
>>>  
>>> Not sure what to make of that. Must be some absolute bladder-buster long 
>>> endurance flights to compensate for the thousands of 6 minute circuits all 
>>> the winch clubs spend most of the winter flying.
>>>  
>>> Also means the average GFA member logs about 45 hours per year. Once again, 
>>> some pilots must be absolutely cranking out the hours to make up for the 
>>> trainees who only log between 5 and 20 hours per year.
>>>  
>>> The other weird numbers worth noting: GFA had issued 932 GPCs, and had 189 
>>> AEIs, 97 Level 1 instructors, 306 Level 2 instructors, and 97 Level 3 
>>> instructors. That’s 689 members with instructor ratings (out of 2584 total 
>>> — over a quarter of GFA’s membership base), and each Level 3 having their 
>>> very own personal Level 1 to train.
>>>  
>>> Let me put it another way: There’s an instructor for every three 
>>> non-instructor GFA members.
>>>  
>>> The ratio is even stranger if you compare instructor headcount to GPC 
>>> holders, and observe that 689 of those 932 GPCs are actually supposed to be 
>>> instructors.
>>>  
>>> I reckon GFA members get instructor ratings instead of Level-2 Independent 
>>> Ops.  If you want to fly club aircraft whenever you want without needing 
>>> anyone’s permission, nearly 700 members have worked out that it’s easier to 
>>> get an instructor rating than a Level 2 Independent Operator rating. Also 
>>> easier to get a crew organized if you’re an instructor and you offer to run 
>>> a day.
>>>  
>>> That’s a perverse outcome, isn't it?  I mean, in an ideal world, it 
>>> wouldn’t be that way?
>>>  
>>>   - mark
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>> On 1 Feb 2017, at 6:04 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> From the aircraft register of  2013
>>>> 
>>>> 1220 gliders and motor gliders
>>>> 
>>>> 950 privately owned
>>>> 
>>>> 270 owned by clubs/cadets/societies etc.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> last year
>>>> 
>>>> 1276 gliders and motor gliders (+4.6%, 56 actual)
>>>> 
>>>> 981 privately owned (+3.3%, 31 actual)
>>>> 
>>>> 295 owned by clubs/cadets/societies etc. (+9.3%, 25 actual)
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Only about 3 years difference, I'd be reluctant to say too much about 
>>>> trends, have to go back and dig up a really old one. But private ownership 
>>>> (in absolute terms) increasing more than club ownership (and as others 
>>>> will point out, only about half of the gliders in Australia are given an 
>>>> annual in any one year, so it all may be moot anyway).
>>>> 
>>>> gliders on the register newer than 3 years old in 2016 - (64 total)
>>>> 
>>>> 36 private
>>>> 
>>>> 28 club
>>>> 
>>>> Of those 64 new gliders 18 "pure" (mostly DG1000s, and 10 of them air 
>>>> cadets), 46 with some sort of motor. That's a clue to the future right 
>>>> there.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> For pilot flying times, much more difficult to get a handle on.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From:
>>>> "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." 
>>>> @lists.base64.com.au>
>>>>  
>>>> To:
>>>> "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." 
>>>> Cc:
>>>>  
>>>> Sent:
>>>> Wed, 1 Feb 2017 14:36:35 +1100
>>>> Subject:
>>>> Re: [Aus-soaring] MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> to put a different spin on it, how about asking some different questions
>>>> 
>>>> 1) how many gliders are there now?
>>>> 
>>>> 2) how many are privately owned (percentage change)?
>>>> 
>>>> 3) have the annual flown hours per pilot gone up or down?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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