There are about 150 active comp pilots, there are roughly 700 active pilot (excluding all the circuit bashing instructors) 20% is not a tiny majority
Which bit of GFA admin in particular? Being an aircraft owner, pilot both comp and recreation, the amount of admin I experienced was not much more than owning a boat. Annual inspections seem like a damn fine idea to me. From experience it hurts if they hit the ground hard Also from direct involvement and observation, the last couple of GFA exec teams have done a pretty fine job at protecting the community from what CASA had in mind to impose and take from us. Not all clubs are declining, some have doubled in size over the few years. Volunteering is a dying art across the whole community not just gliding, the point was made about being time poor by several Is there are shortage of instructors or just a shortage of young enthusiastic instructors ? Likely Reality, gliding will never again see the halcyon years. The emotive drivers in the greater community are no longer there, its not a cool thing anymore. Likely Reality, membership will continue to decline and may soon fall off an age cliff Likely Reality, there will be more private ownership Likely Reality, there will be more independent operation with the inevitable electrification and self launching options Likely Reality, there will be more commercial operations as the club options die out. > On 3 Feb 2017, at 2:56 pm, Greg Wilson <[email protected]> wrote: > > In an attempt to get a worthwhile discussion get back on track. Not my ideas > but a brief summary of this conversation so far. > > Perceived problems: > > GFA administration > Overly focused on competition carried out by a tiny minority of pilots > Resistant to change > Minimum required to deal with CASA > > Clubs > Membership declining > > Training > Volunteer based - not providing scheduled and efficient training expected by > younger people > Instructors need to be paid > > Pilots > Very few given L2 independent ops so vast majority permanently operating > under supervision of instructors > Gliding responsibility needs to be in the hands of the pilot, not club or CFI > Aging pilots > > Aircraft > Many aging gliders > many out of service yet still on register > > Solutions?? > > > Greg Wilson > > > > > ---- On Thu, 02 Feb 2017 21:40:18 +1100 Robert > Izatt<[email protected]> wrote ---- > Not entirely true. Many have indicated a direction. > Your problem is, for 1 through 4 you have to have willingness and > co-operation from the clubs and the management skills at the club level. Most > members of a club want to enjoy the activity without having to run a > business. You need special or stupid people who are happy to devote countless > hours to this when really the club (or some members) doesn’t want to deal > with all the hassles of larger numbers, less access to equipment > (glider/tug), bigger queues at the flight line etc etc etc. I have been > there. > And that’s their right and good luck to them. > > > On 2 Feb. 2017, at 11:11 am, Peter Carey <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > This has been a very deep and meaningful discussion and, to me, it was > enlightening and educational. Most of the contributions were well thought out > and clearly expressed. > My only problem is that the conversation was confined to defining the problem > and, what we should be concentrating is a solution. > We have done the talk, now, let's try to do the walk. > I am new to the game (been gliding for 40 years) and a bloody foreigner > (living here for 60 years) so, you have to forgive me if I am on the wrong > path. > We won't be able to solve the membership decline issue with volunteer, > amateur way so, we need to look for an alternative and here is one of many. > > For years the GFA has been sitting on well over a million dollars. I suggest > that we spend half of it on professional planning and marketing. > We would get an organization to > 1. Draw up a business plan for the GFA and for the Clubs (one each for large, > medium and small Clubs) > 2. Draw up a plan and budget for effective publicity and social media > campaign. > 3. Oversee the implementation of the above. > 4. The implementation should be carried out by the staff employed by the GFA. > > This is my crude attempt to invite praise, abuse and expansion to the above. > > “Beside the noble art of getting things done, there is the noble art of > leaving things undone.” > ― lin yu tang <http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/14586136.lin_yu_tang> > > Peter Carey > > > On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Erich Wittstock <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > ..ahh..the sweet sound of jealousy! ;-) > > On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Mark Newton <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > On 2 Feb 2017, at 9:24 AM, [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: > > > If we assume it is only age related, the register shows that the cut off > > year for the 600 oldest gliders is 1978. So all that "old low performance > > stuff" would include all the LS1s, Cirrus, Libelles, Mosquitos, Astir > > CS/CS77s and Hornets and some of the Jantars, PIK20s, ASW20s and LS3s. > > > > The ASH-25 first flew in 1987. That makes it a 30 year old aircraft. > > Won’t be too long before it’s classified as a vintage sailplane :-) > > - mark > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring > <http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring> > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring > <http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring> > > > > > -- > PETER CAREY > Executive Member > The Victorian Vernier Society > The Society for People with a Passion for Manufacturing > 'sharing experience - building a better future' > www.vernier.org.au <http://www.vernier.org.au/> > 0412464340 > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring > <http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring> > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring > <http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring> > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring
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