At 08:14 PM 2/14/2017, you wrote:

Firstly that "The GFA" teaches this. It doesn't. Individual instructors do, because they like to be The Boss and control others. In my club I'd say it is a 50/50 split (typically along the lines of those that are still active X/C pilots). Some are pushing pilots to think, some push them to be conservative.


Really? The GFA system is set up like this by design. The instructors aren't the only ones who like to be boss. The CFI, RTO, CTO and GFA Board all do.


From the teaching perspective, many students don't have enough self confidence and it is the job of the teacher to push them student outside of the student's comfort zone in order for them to advance. These students, if left to their own devices, will seek comfort only in the areas that they know already and won't want to push it. For some, that means more than gentle nudges are sometimes needed.


Fine when solving mathematics problems. I have a problem with the whole going solo before reaching a licence test standard. Like sending a 17 year old kid around the block in the $70,000 Mercedes after just enough instruction to steer, accelerate and stop. Fine until you have an emergency.


I can't comment specifically about the surroundings of the PW-5 student and that situation. But to point to this as a failing of the GFA training and structure is, to me, a leap too far.


First you need to acknowledge the problem before you can fix it. If this wasn't a problem of a system based on supervision in a heirarchy what was it?


What I think is wrong is not the hierarchy, but how instructors are selected and trained. Only works if you're a buddy of the CFI, and that there is no teaching on how to teach. Our instructors are basically expert pilots, but they are not expert educators. Fix the training of instructors and the rest of the system issues disappear into the background.


That is correct. Now we are getting somewhere. So the problem is how the SYSTEM selects and trains(or rather doesn't really) instructors. This is NOT a SYSTEM problem? So let's have proper CASA licences and instructors who are DIRECTLY responsible to CASA. The USA system is that there is only ONE level of instructor, CFI (Certified Flight Instructor). This rating is obtainable if you are a COMMERCIAL pilot, pass written exams and receive flight instruction and pass a test by someone approved by the FAA to train and certify instructors. Means you can charge for your time. A student finds a CFI who agrees to teach him or her to fly. When the instructor thinks the student is ready to pass a licence checkride they organise an examiner to come and fly with the student (in gliders this will involve more than one flight usually). If the student passes a licence (certificate in the US) is issued. If not, further training before another try. If a CFI puts up 3 students in a row who don't pass, the CFI loses the rating until further training and checking is done. Further up the line I'm sure that if somebody issuing CFI tickets is found to be turning out dud CFIs action will be taken.

Simple and self correcting.

Flight reviews (every two years) can be done in a single engine landplane or a glider for both ratings. Not silly when a single engine aircraft can turn into a glider at any time.

This does not seem to cause problems and the US GA accident rate is around half or less than ours. Do people still do stupid things? Of course. USA glider/motorglider medical is same as GFA. Self declaration.


(FWIW, catching up on other parts - yes I agree that L2 Ind Ops and how it is issued is not right and I really don't see why we have L1 and L2 as L1 is basically useless since you can't actually operate independently)


So what are we saving by running a unique system different from the rest of Australian aviation? CASA has a licensing system (I'm sure they'll get it right one day - maybe) which can be used. There is already provision in Part 61 for Glider pilot licences. All it takes is for the GFA Board to go to CASA and say they were wrong about wanting this licence to not be valid inside Australia. Then CASA just nominates some examiners (could be past instructors although I think experienced pilots would be fine (>say 1000 hours in command) and some CFI trainers (experienced instructors (>500 hours in command, >500 hours instructing).

Once licenced, a pilot is responsible for him or her self. In a club situation the instructors can then be responsible for their students. Organising who gets launched first is a totally separate issue. This limits liability and makes it quite clear where responsibility lies.

A whole lot of volunteers will have their workloads reduced and they may even be able to go solo gliding themselves.

Running to the GFA Board with half a dozen people saying that there need to be minor changes to the L2 system isn't going to achieve anything. Never confuse activity with achievement.

Mike






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