Ron.

 

Ansett had two Norwegian pilots: Bjorn Amundsen and Shell Leistaad.  Bjorn was 
my T/C as an intake pilot and I owe him so much. I was also his last F/O. After 
a redeye which we crewed he went to his property in the Strathbogies where he’d 
 established a large timber plantation as superannuation for his two children – 
Guy and Heidi. While slashing between the trees the slasher picked up a stone 
which rose and struck him in the back of his head. That caused Bjorn to fall 
backwards under the slasher.

I was contacted  by his wife and later Shell asking his last plans. That lead 
to Shell calling the local police to investigate and they found Bjorn still 
alive. Sadly he didn’t survive.

 

Shell was also an Ansett 727 Captain and he sent Thor – also an airline pilot - 
 a letter of introduction and Bev. and I met up with him at the 74 WC. 

 

I’m totally ignorant of Thor’s proposal. Please Post.

 

Noel.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: Ron Sanders [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 4:29 PM
To: Justin Couch; Gliding Australia Forum; Discussion of issues relating to 
Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [gfaforum] 1000 K triangles

 

Ingo competed in thirteen. As you say won four, and lost into second place at 
Wiener Neustadt by some stupidly small number of points. If one did a rigorous 
"uncertainty" or "error analysis" on the procedures in place at that time there 
is no way you can under any rigorous mathematical process ensure that with even 
75% probability that Ingo was actually beaten. As far as i am concerned he won 
four and was a draw for first place at Wiener Neustadt. The scoring system then 
and now is a load of shit. The simplest thing is that is to understand that we 
add up the points to score the winner and yet a point scored on Wednesday is 
not the same value as a point score on Thursday   you all aware of that???  
Ergo it is all shit.

Bill Anderson of the GCV had a really good system many many years ago, did not 
catch on, due to general ignorance. 

 

Does any of our up and coming newbys,  even the top ones know, anything about 
Thor Johansen's proposal from thirty years ago  Regards   scoring?? EH?? who is 
he???? At least he is still alive   I think

 

George won three,  but the big difference is ----- in Open class, in a row and 
without practise!!!!!!!  unless flying a along the border of east Germany in an 
F4 Phantom constitutes practise for Paderborn. And what about the day that he 
was the only finisher and the majority of the pilots were pissed off at the 
over set task and complained to the organisers?? At the next briefing the 
(French? ) comp director said regards the complaints that----- they were there 
to determine the WORLD champion, the task was set and was possible as 
proven!!!! go jump!!!!! By the way George has said that it was the skinniest 
final glide he has ever done!!!!

 

yes time moves on, but do we learn anything??  AAT  tasks = what a load of 
shit!!!  I want maps, cameras and no gps!!  Am i getting bites???

 

Ron

 

On 2 December 2017 at 16:33, Justin Couch <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2/12/2017 4:30 PM, Ron Sanders wrote:

Come on guys!!!  a few words on the internet does not need this level of
aggro or holier than thou or what ever.

I am only asking these questions for fun.

I sometime wonder if the new youngsters are aware of the records and
achievements that older Australian glider pilots have made in the past.


Yup. Loss of corporate history is a real thing, and these are good ways of help 
people understand where we come from. GFA trivial night in the virtual world.

Next question----- How many world comps did Ingo win?? How many did he
attend??


He won 4. Don't know how many he's attended. It would have to be in double 
figures (assuming "attending" means competing in, rather than showing up for a 
dinner and a chat as a guest).

How many did our other New Australian George Lee win, attend?


Pass!

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