James there was no personal attack on you and I am sorry that you took it that way.
It was just a statement of fact. ROS _________________________________________________________________________________________ Ross McLean From: Aus-soaring [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of James McDowall Sent: Monday, 3 December 2018 7:22 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Nationals at NRM So the Gross Weight has been checked – my question was about the cockpit weight. It is possible for gross weight not to be exceeded but the cockpit weight to be in excess of the placarded maximum. I just love the way people descend into personal attack – sums up the automatic defensive approach of many people in the movement as opposed to open and frank discussion of issues. Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Ross McLean <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, 2 December 2018 10:24 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Nationals at NRM James I wonder if you have ever been to a National Gliding Championship? Because if you had you would of course know that prior to the start of the competition each and every competing glider is taken over the scales, (usually set up inside a hangar to get true weight), with full ballast, cockpit drinking water, parachute, oxygen and pilot. The actual measured weight is compared to the manufacturers published reference all up weight for that glider and the glider must be compliant before it is allowed to compete. The glider is then weighed again with the wing and tail dolly fitted and the aircraft attached to the tow out vehicle. This measured weight is then used during random weight checks throughout the comp. For you to suggest otherwise is quite simply an indication of your genuine ignorance of how things are done at Australian National Gliding Comps. Cheers, ROSS _________________________________________________________________________________________ Ross McLean From: Aus-soaring [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of James McDowall Sent: Sunday, 2 December 2018 5:06 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Nationals at NRM I wonder if the Narromine Contest Director has checked that no aircraft are being flown by overweight pilots - eg 105kg pilot with 7kg parachute + food and water, in a glider with a maximum 105kg max pilot weight glider. Also has the aircraft been weighed since instruments, oxy or other additions made? On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 3:17 PM Ron Sanders <[email protected]> wrote: Guys, are there any blogs facebooks going where one can vicariously participate?? Ron _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list [email protected] http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring
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