......and as CASA exercised on GFA some years back when it was felt
that that GFA wasn't exercising its obligations, thus rescinded its
delegations
for a period.
Life was a lot simpler when GFA represented glider pilots as a proactive
advocate in favour of bottom up responsibility from the individual pilot
upward
via uniformly agreed principles;
The current situation of GFA being a 'co-regulator' with/to/for CASA
creates that confusion of -
- are we operating gliders to gliding needs
or
- are we trying to operate gliders to power plane <5700kg needs
(as per the erosion of exemptions)

Emilis

On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 6:46 AM James McDowall <[email protected]>
wrote:

> In 2010 the GFA issued an Operations Advice Notice which included the
> following:
>
> *Each pilot must accept it is their responsibility to operate a sailplane
> within its certified limitations and the operation of a sailplane with a
> cockpit load in excess of the certified limit is not sanctioned by GFA. It
> is entirely the responsibility of the person acting as the pilot in command
> of a flight to ensure compliance with the certified maximum cockpit load
> requirement. *
>
> *GFA understands that an increasing number of pilots are experiencing
> difficulty meeting the maximum cockpit load requirement of sailplanes.
> Pilots in this situation are encouraged to seek gliders which accommodate
> their needs within their placard limits or to seek advice from the
> manufacturers or suitably qualified engineers about possible engineering
> solutions. *
>
> The contest rules provide for penalties for operation of a glider outside
> of its certified limits:
>
> *Dangerous or hazardous flying including flying outside the glider’s
> Certificate of Airworthiness or Permit to Fly – minimum penalty 100 points
> – maximum penalty loss of all points for the day*
>
> So not only is it not lawful to fly with an overweight cockpit load it is
> against the GFA rules and the contest rules. This is a GFA issue primarily
> and it is not a CASA issue except if CASA decides that the GFA is knowing
> allowing aircraft to be flown outside its certified limitations and decides
> to act in some manner perhaps to jeopardise all GFA operations such as the
> did some time ago with RAAus.
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Matthew Scutter <[email protected]>
> *Sent: *Thursday, 6 December 2018 9:04 PM
> *To: *Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
> <[email protected]>
> *Subject: *Re: [Aus-soaring] Who is ultimately responsible...
>
>
>
> So make a complaint to the GFA then about whoever it is you're concerned
> about. Don't conflate sports with airworthiness. Scales are for checking
> weight relative to handicap, not some mobile enforcement arm of CASA.
> Competition directors have enough to worry about already.
>
> On Thu, 6 Dec 2018, 10:17 am James McDowall <[email protected]
> wrote:
>
> The Self Administering Organisation model seeks to make the SAO
> responsible for ensuring that the laws are obeyed. Under the Part 149
> arrangements CASA will only act at the request or report of the SAO. CASA
> relies on this concept so leaves these sort of issues to the relevant body
> so in this case if there is doubt that the law (or rules) are not complied
> with the GFA is obliged to act – at least to investigate. It is as easy as
> a set of scales at the launch pad.
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Robert Izatt <[email protected]>
> *Sent: *Thursday, 6 December 2018 5:41 PM
> *To: *Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
> <[email protected]>
> *Subject: *Re: [Aus-soaring] Who is ultimately responsible...
>
>
>
> That said if CASA was aware or believed or was provided information that
> an aircraft was being operated outside its limits or the pilot was unfit to
> operate said aircraft they would be proactive. The bigger the aircraft the
> more so but the principle still applies.
>
> If even just a rumour exists in V8 Supercars or F1 that the rules are
> being broken.......
>
> Rob
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
> On 6 Dec 2018, at 1:28 PM, Texler, Michael <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Season’s Greetings to all,
>
>
>
> Who is ultimately responsible?
>
>
>
> The answer is in your mirror
>
>
>
> From GFA Operational Regulations Issue 7, October 2014
>
> Page 13
>
> 4. CONDUCT OF OPERATIONS
>
> 4.1. General
>
> 4.1.3. A pilot shall at all times operate a sailplane within the limits of
> its cockpit placards and shall not exceed the privileges of their
> authorisation(s).
>
> 4.1.4. Before each flight the pilot in command shall ensure that:
>
> (a) The sailplane is loaded within permitted limits and that any ballast
> required is adequately secured;
>
>
>
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