David

My apologies if I've hit a sensitive nerve.  I've got to say that the
Minutes really don't give too much detail (like just about every other
subject they mentioned I'm afraid).  So, my summary of a summary produces
something less than the whole truth.

Don't get me wrong.  I'm definitely not against the autotug concept, however
after watching its progress from afar for many years, the words "finally
killed off" seemed to fit the dawning of the eventual reality that it is
not, for the present time, going to become the next big thing in Pawnee
engines.  Hopefully at some time in the future we might see a variant of an
auto engine make it into Pawnees in large quantities.  I read about a Volvo
engine (complete with Volvo factory engineering support) being used in a
Pawnee in Sweden some time ago - anyone got any recent news on this one ?

Might autotug live long and prove all the bureaucrats and knockers wrong !

Regards

Jason
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave & Glenys Sharples
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [aus-soaring] GFA AGM info (was re: glider wanted)


Jason
You say the autotug was finally killed off.  This is somewhat misleading,
the company is being wound up but the tug itself is running perfectly and
has been for some time.  Just ask anyone who was at the recent QSA comps
where it towed every day without a single problem.

Dave Sharples

-------Original Message-------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, November 09, 2001 12:40:47
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [aus-soaring] GFA AGM info (was re: glider wanted)

Quoting Mike Borgelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Do I detect a faint hint of ongoing unhappiness with the magazine and
> its "perpetrators"?

Here comes the sigh from the list members again ... "oh no, more magazine
bashing !"

I can understand the sentiment of Mike's comment though - I also seem to
recall
that a canopy (Arrow ?) from Benalla had likewise been sold some time ago
yet
still appears each month in the GFA Classifieds along with the
aforementioned
Hornet.

A few of my pet peeves:

There has been a recent series of articles to do with electrics and radio on
trikes. WHY, oh WHY can't the editor and sub-editors at least agree that
maybe
we we use radios and electrics too ? These articles have a GENERAL interest,
not just for the trike pilots, yet they (and even the writers to some
extent)
seem to like to stick their heads in the sand and pretend they're targeting
one
audience i.e. the one that concerns THEIR discipline. With some small
editorial changes they would be relevant to more disciplines (with
appropriate
icons at the page top) e.g. trikes with radios are like gliders (with radios
!)
and motor gliders (with both motor and radio) and maybe even paramotors (I
presume these have radios fitted ?)

If the powers that be can't even amalgamate the magazine, then what hope did
they really have of amalgamating GFA with HGFA ?

I am also finding the "advertorials" a bit tedious. I mean, we all know that
Bernhard Eckey is the ASH/ASW agent in Australia, but do we need to have
cover
photos, centerfolds and test flight reports each month ? Mike - maybe you
should write a B2000 article, complete with sexy centrefold shots of it and
then you wouldn't have to worry about paying for advertising ! LOL

On the plus side, it was good to see an article on the Gloucester ridge
camp -
just a bunch of ordinary club members from the grass roots of the GFA
membership having a great time. There should be more of this. And also Cath
Conway's article on her son's experiences in a glider. That's got me head
down
writing an article about my experiences, and those of my 3rd generation
gliding
5 year old son. Watch AG in the new year !!!

> Don't forget these same people occasionally interface with the
> government and claim to represent you.
>
> Pity they haven't faced an election.
>
> Slightly related, has the GFA annual meeting been held?

Yes

> Did anything happen?

For one, the Autotug finally got killed off.

See the November AG/Skysailor (just arrived a few days ago), where a whole
double page was devoted to names and addresses (physical and e-mail) of
those
elected for the next year - in some ways it probably could have been covered
better on the web site (and I note that the ever efficient GFA webmaster
David
Head has done just that - THANKS DAVID !). With the exception of those with
e-
mail only accounts like Telstra Easymail, 99.9% of those with e-mail have
web
access too, and if you want their e-mail addresses, you are far more likely
to
look on the GFA web site than digging around for the Nov 2001 AG/SS.

The AGM and ACM Minutes appear on the GFA web site, along with my
favourite "missing minute matters", for example

WHO moved each item ? WHO seconded each item ?

Where can "Joe Average" get a copy of all the reports which were submitted
and
accepted by the AGM and ACM ?

Why aren't the reports and presentations always given to the webmaster for
inclusion as part of the GFA web site ? Surely in 2001, EVERYONE can submit
an
electronic version of their report. I for one would LOVE to see the
Development
Officer's presentation as development and growth of our Club is a key issue
that interests our Committee.

Could we PLEASE (at Club and State level) encourage better Minute keeping at
these meetings and more transparency through readily available reports and
presentations on the GFA web site ?

A member kept in the dark is a cynical member - give us a bit of
transparency,
and thus a chance to know about and participate in the process and we're
more
likely to give you our trust.

> Does anyone care?

I do - see above. I'd like to think that my $157.30 each year gets put to
more
use than just the magazine, and that I have some say in how that money is
used.

Regards

Jason Armistead

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