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>G'day David,
>
>>
>>  As to abinitio training in my opinion it is fine to do it in a glider-the
>>  idea of a jabiru seems ridiculous to me I started gliding to fly MOTORLESS
>>  aircraft not to get some sort of pseudo PPL if that s what you
>>  want do a PPL
>>  course.after all how many ordinary people can afford a motor glider?
>
>Given that much time is attributed to simply learning the basics, a motor
>glider is very cost effective.   How much per hour does the MG cost, versus
>how many launch fees will you pay just to learn how to turn??????
>I seem to recall my early training, all i wanted to do was go solo, but
>training in winter seems to draw it out with only very short flights at
>best.
>>
>>  In my opinion gliding is a dying sport due to the narrow-minded and old
>>  fashioned methods used in both training and general operations.It has now
>>  reached a point where only a rich elite can afford to fly why not address
>>  this sort of issue than arguing amongst yourselves about what is best for
>>  the individual operator,come on guys!!!!!Remember Nero fiddled whilst Rome
>>  burnt.
>
>I agree, flying gliders is now HORRIBLY expensive. The dollar gap between
>gliding and powered is ever closing.  Ultra-Frights are probably the
>cheapest aircraft you can fly now.
>>
>>  Finally I do not think a PPL pilot is as well qualified and tested as a
>>  glider pilot.Example:How many PPL pilots have ever done a full spin,or a
>>  real outlaanding in a strange field.Don't bring our standards down to the
>>  PPL level bring PPL up this will require ppl owners to remove
>>  head from you
>>  know where!
>
>Really??? To say that a PPL holder has a lower standard than a glider pilot
>is not good ammunition for your argument.
>What examinations did you have to undertake to get your Gliding ticket?
>When did you do your flight test?
>
>Doing some training in a motor glider or Jabiru, is not going to reduce the
>standards, its going to provide encouragement to the student, as they
>progress faster, having more air time per dollar.
>
>Whilst your at it, you might even be able to teach glider pilots about
>changing radio frequencies as they move out of thier CTAF/MBZ's.
>
>I think Mike Borgelts point is quite valid.
>
>I now ponder who's head is really where.
>
>Jason Pigdon
>Melbourne.
>(dual qualified, PPL & Silver C)


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