Hi Mark,

>I don't see my counter proposal as a "bad idea".  
>

Ok "bad idea" might have been a "bad" choice of words. BTW I'm
violently in agreement with pretty much everything else you wrote,
I even use an external modem ;-)

However I think that having overlapping regulations and regulatory
bodies is a "bad idea". Part of the benefit that I see in the new system
is the tidying up of half a dozen different systems into a single system.

Really the GFA is more at threat from the Student Pilot Licence than
the RPL because there is no equivlent to the RPL in the GFA system,
really most Oz glider pilots fly, in CASA terminalogy, as SPL's.

As for what Simon wrote, yes there are many valid points in that but
pilots should remain members of clubs for precisely the points that he
made not because it is currently a mandatory requirement for a glider
pilot to be a member of GFA and to be a member of GFA you have to
be a member of a GFA club.

Removal of this requirement will not result in loss of club members
because, well quite frankly I can't afford to buy my own airstrip and no
doubt neither can most on this list. If pilots think that by getting an
RPL-glider they can forget clubs and club membership, that as he said

  "where we no longer need to depend on a club for our -ability-
   (not right, -ability-) to commit aviation any more"

then they are in for a bit of a shock.

Clubs should exist so that like minded individuals can combine their
resources to provide the infrastructure required to fly. For example
you'd think that paragliders don't need much infrastructure yet nearly
all paraglider pilots are members of a paraglider club. Why, well
having flown off the top of some nice big hill, and bombed out, who's
gonna retrieve you? Who's gonna cut the trees and mow the grass on the
hill top in the first place, and who are you gonna have to sit with at
the pub and tell tall stories about what a legend pilot you aren't?

As others have pointed out the Instructional requirement component of
a GFA club makes it hard for smaller clubs to operate. If however these
clubs only trained on limited days, or had their students trained at a 
larger
club/commercial operation.....

As for the GFA itself, whether it lives or dies is not important, what's 
important
is that the needs/wishes/wants of the glider pilots are met. If that 
means the
end of the GFA so be it. However I doubt this is the case because as I said,
CASA aren't a training organisation, they don't do sylybus's, train 
instructors
etc etc and there are many other facets to gliding, especially on the 
sporting
and competition side that CASA just aren't a valid replacement for.

rgds

Pete




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