Thanks John - perhaps a more direct approach is needed - as suggested my Mike Cleaver.
Brian -- Brian Wade Personal Computer Concepts Uniform Time http://www.uniformtime.com.au PO Box 114 INDOOROOPILLY QLD 4068 Ph: 07 3371 2944 Fax: 07 3870 4103 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Giddy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [aus-soaring] Licenses Brian, The current cut-off date for comment to the DP on Sports Licenses has just been extended to 31 August this year. Won't action at the ACM/AGM in September be a bit late ? Cheers, John G. ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Wade To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 10:45 PM Subject: [aus-soaring] Licenses It is my belief, and also that of 22 of the 25 who have so far responded to a mini poll, that the GFA should enter into Part 61 discussions with CASA in a positive and proactive manner. There has been a lot of useful debate on the aus-soaring list about the pros and cons of a gliding license. Unfortunately there has also been a certain amount of blinkered passion, but coming out of it all are a number of points that could be used in the development of the brief to be used by the GFA Delegates in discussion with CASA. What follows draws on inputs from many, but in particular recent posts from Redmond Quinn and Peter Rundle. It is my intention to develop it further and then forward it to QSA in advance of the September AGM/ACM. Any constructive comments would be appreciated. The aim is to end up with a document that might be helpful to the GFA. SUGGESTED BASIS FOR GFA POSITION ON CASA PART 61 NPRM The fundamental philosophy that underpins the GFA position should be that the option to obtain a gliding license be made available to Australian glider pilots, but that those who chose not to obtain one should be able to continue to fly under instructor supervision as is the case now. With that philosophy as a core consideration, negotiations with CASA should seek to achieve outcomes that are not inconsistent with the following. General The existing medical examination requirements be retained. Transitional provisions to protect existing glider pilot authorisations. Unlicensed authorisations to remain available for all existing levels up to and including AEI and Independent Operator Level 1. Once a License is introduced, no new Independent Operator Level 2 authorisations to be issued, but existing Level 2 independent operators to retain privileges if they opt not to obtain a license. License Requirements and Privileges Glider license requirements to be competency based and, with the exception of the minimum command time and Silver C requirements, embrace the existing Level 2 Passenger and Level 2 Independent Operator requirements. A formal airspace and radio procedures test should also be introduced. License endorsements (ratings) to be available for various launch methods (aero, winch, auto, reflex) and operating environments (high altitude, cross country). Licensed pilots to operate under instructor supervision until an endorsement is obtained for a new launch method or operating environment. Licensed glider pilots to be able to exercise the privileges of all ratings for which he/she is current, without the requirement for an instructor to be present (but always subject to any restrictions imposed by the aircraft owner/operator). Permitted operations to include: Solo flight, including cross country. Passenger carrying and Air Experience Flights, but not flights involving personal reward. Existing Level 1 Instructor privileges, but without the requirement for a Level 2 Instructor to be present. Procedures for the Issue of Licenses The system that is put in place must be easy to administer and involve only minimal additional expense. License training and tests be conducted by Clubs and Training Centres and the resultant documentation sent to the license issuing authority. Licences to be either issued by CASA on recommendation from GFA, or by GFA under delegation from CASA. Licences to remain valid indefinitely; however ratings endorsed on the licence to be subject to bi-ennial flight review by a flight examiner (Level 2 Instructor). Currency requirements to be determined by GFA/Clubs. Instructor Categories Obtaining a license to be a requirement for instructor ratings (other than AEI) issued after the introduction of the license. For existing instructors, obtaining a license to be encouraged, but not made mandatory. The basis for CASA instructor designations to be: Flight Instructor (Glider) rating be based on the current Level 1 instructor authorisation requirements. Pilot Examiner (Glider) rating be based on the current Level 2 instructor authorisation requirements. Instructor Training (Glider) endorsement to be in accordance with current Level 3 instructor authorisation requirements. Instructor privileges to be essentially as now except that a Level 1 Instructor, who also holds a license, would be able to instruct without the requirement to have a Level 2 instructor at the field. Once again, - constructive comments welcome. Regards Brian -- Brian Wade Personal Computer Concepts Uniform Time http://www.uniformtime.com.au PO Box 114 INDOOROOPILLY QLD 4068 Ph: 07 3371 2944 Fax: 07 3870 4103 -- * You are subscribed to the aus-soaring mailing list. * To Unsubscribe: send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] * with "unsubscribe aus-soaring" in the body of the message * or with "help" in the body of the message for more information.
