fair comment - lets collect some footage for a start &
then debate what to do with it though. As you point
out, it will take a lot of raw materiel (& time) to
get a usable product, so the sooner we start  thinking
about it, the better.

did you have microphones listening to my comments
about your wave video, BTW?  =D
 

 --- Mark Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> On 03/08/2004, at 1:44 AM, McLean Richard wrote:
> 
> > If the need to use or employ professionals is so
> > 'beyond question' then why is there so much good
> > amateur stuff on the web?
> 
> Well -- There isn't.  Not for the purpose we've been
> talking
> about.
> 
> There is plenty of stuff out there which makes
> people who already
> fly think, "Wow, that's pretty good!" but this
> thread of conversation
> has been about capturing the hearts and minds of
> people who don't
> fly.
> 
> ... and, as a pilot, you lack the perspective
> necessary to judge
> whether stuff on the web is high quality or not *for
> that purpose*.
> 
> 
> > This is the age of 'reality
> > media' where the feeling of 'being right there' is
> > what sells - gritty, unpolished (to some extent
> > anyway) shots that show *reality* not staged,
> studio
> > polish .. and with the quality of the digicams
> > available (which I've seen firsthand in the last
> few
> > weeks at my own club) I'm perplexed by all the
> fuss
> > about how hard everything is.
> 
> Getting raw footage isn't hard:  it's just a matter
> of being
> at the right place at the right time with the
> suitable equipment.
> You can "stage" shorts pretty easily if you know
> what you want
> ahead of time (i.e., if you use a storyboard)
> 
> The editing job, however, is bloody difficult.  The
> ridge and
> wave videos I put on the web last month were the
> culmination
> of about 12 hours of editing to trim nearly 2 hours
> of raw
> footage down to 15 minutes of interesting stuff. 
> (And even then
> it's only interesting to glider pilots who already
> know what
> wave flying and ridge flying is all about).  Show it
> to the
> general public (or even, for that matter, a GA
> pilot!) and all
> you get is a blank stare.
> 
> If you see some aerobatic footage or some close
> formation flying
> or some cockpit footage in wave, you enjoy it
> because you know what
> it involves, you respect the skill of the pilots
> involved, you may
> have even tried it before and worked out how
> enjoyable it is.  You
> "connect" with the footage and have an emotional
> reaction to it
> because your experience provides you with linkage to
> whatever is
> portrayed in the video.
> 
> When I show the video around my club, the emotional
> reaction I get
> from a lot of people is, "You bastard, I wish I was
> there, how come
> you flew in wave and I didn't?!"  So I try to show
> it around the
> club as often as I can <grin>
> 
> Give the same video to someone who has never flown
> before and they'll
> have a different emotional reaction:  "Geez, I bet
> if I tried that
> I'd throw up.  I wonder if it's as dangerous as it
> looks?"  Then ask
> them whether a view of the instrument panel is
> interesting an exciting
> just because the altimeter is reading something in
> the flight-levels
> and they'll start to wonder if you're on drugs or
> something.
> 
> That's why storyboarding, and review by someone who
> isn't a pilot,
> is important.  We've all forgotten what it's like to
> see something
> like that through the eyes of a non-pilot, and we're
> not equipped
> to judge the effectiveness of the video at provoking
> the emotional
> reaction we want to provoke.  We can't just throw
> together some
> raw footage and hope for the best.
> 
>      - mark
> 
>
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