Redmond's "touch of rudder" is probably more of a "boot load".



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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] More on spinning
-UStrainingrulesandPuchaczspinning

At 05:55 PM 29/09/04 +0930, you wrote:
>Quinn wrote:
>
>>I've had a more recent experience of deliberately spinning a Ventus in
full negative flap.  This exercise was brought about by the thought "what
if I'm steaming along in negative flap and slow down as I pass through a
patch of rising air and forget to dangle the flap".  This spin entry made
the entry of the Puchaz look like kids stuff.  A touch on the rudder caused
the aircraft to abruptly roll inverted and depart as a full blown spin.
Any aircraft or ground below would spoil your day.  It wound up to a bit
over 90 knots on spin recovery.  After this experience I went and tried the
same trick in the club's PIK 20D.  Results were similar, except it took a
bit more rudder abuse and the roll in wasn't so abrupt.


What speed and what exactly did you do? My Ventus doesn't do that. If
anything the stall is more benign in negative flap.

Mike


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