Have flown my syndicate Jantar with half water for years, not a problem, provide you take a few moments to level the wings before takeoff. I think that it was just a translation issue to say that you shouldn't do this. Which info in the flight manual do you follow? - max weight is 500Kg or don't fly with half tanks?
Terry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Gilbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:18 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] World Class Glider > Jantars have to takeoff full. Unless we have an honour system where people > have to dump, that could be a problem! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Borgelt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring inAustralia." > <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 5:39 PM > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] World Class Glider > > > > At 05:10 PM 8/04/05 +1000, you wrote: > >>I guess it would work with Open Class, but I was referring to Standard > >>Class. When you look at the numbers, in Australia (according to the CASA > >>register) there are : > >> > >>36 Std Cirruses > >>42 Std Libelles > >>5 ASW-15s > >>8 Open Libelles > >>4 Jantar Stds > >>30 Pik-20s (Yes, there was 1 there. B & D Model Pik-20's might have a bit > >>of > >>an advantage over the rest) > >>8 LS1s (The LS1f wasnt around then, but close enough) > >> > >>And although there were no Astirs or Hornets around then, they are close > >>enough in performance that you would probably include them as well > >>(between > >>them, there are 72 of these aircraft in Aus). > >> > >>That is 204 eligible gliders. Hell, maybe we could hold the comp at > >>Waikerie! > >> > >>Nick. > > > > Nick, > > > > You might as well make it pre 1980 and have 3 classes. Just exclude LS4 > > and > > later, Ventus A/B and later in 15m class and Nimbus 3/ASW22 in Open. That > > was the technology divide. > > > > If you are worried about Std Jantar 2 wing loading simply make them fly at > > the Std Jantar 1 max weight. The aerodynamics is almost the same. > > > > I'll let you find out how many gliders that gives you. My guess is around > > 300. > > > > You could call it "Classic" class with a "74 World's" sub class inside > > that > > contest in Std and Open. That also gets over the Nimbus 2C wing loading > > advantage over the earlier Nimbii. > > > > The PIK's probably all have aileron flap interconnects now so should fly > > 15 > > meter anyway. This interconnect was not allowed in 1974. > > > > At least any handicapping arguments should go away. > > > > Do you have a way of sifting the register automatically by type/date of > > entry on register etc? > > > > Might be interesting to see how many of each type there are and how many > > gliders were on the register say pre 1968. > > > > Mike > > Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments > > phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 > > fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 > > cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 > > Int'l + 61 429 355784 > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > website: www.borgeltinstruments.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Aus-soaring mailing list > > [email protected] > > To check or change subscription details, visit: > > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list [email protected] To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
