I guess that's my fault. I took him gliding when he was a kid, now his career includes writing software to control the lift...
Allan Armistead ph (02) 6249 6470, fax (02) 6249 6555, mobile 0413 013 911 PO Box 908, Dickson ACT 2602, Australia "When once you have tasted flight, you will always walk with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and there you always will be." Leonardo da Vinci, 1452-1519 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Derek Ruddock Sent: Thursday, 26 May 2005 8:13 To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Poking into the past / AG indices Funny Jason, I always thought you did something with lifts ;) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason and Jemima Armistead Sent: Wednesday, 25 May 2005 11:30 p.m. To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Poking into the past / AG indices All While not wanting to be seen as a party pooper, the issue of copyright remains the single biggest impediment to compiling or selling such CDs or putting them online. At the very minimum, GFA as the "owner" of the magazines would have to give it the OK. However it's even more complex than that, because it may be possible that each and every author of every article ever written would likewise have to give their approval to allow their individual articles to be redistributed. It all depends what the original terms were that the original manuscripts were submitted to AG. Going back to 1948, the Internet and digital reproduction never existed and so copyright law and the terms of submission to AG may not have foreseen such an eventuality. Ditto for all the photographs, and possibly advertisements that have appeared. See the following Fact Sheet from the Australian Copyright Council http://www.copyright.org.au/pdf/acc/InfoSheets/G013.pdf Especially the "Publishing" section on page 5 While most authors in the gliding community might not care too much about such a project, and gladly turn over their rights (assuming they're not assigned to the GFA by default), there might be others, like Bernd Eckey, who has indicated (if I recall his articles correctly) that they were going to put them together into book form, presumably for sale. Some articles have also been reprinted in AG with permission from other soaring publications - that permission probably does not extend to redistribution via CD / Internet means. While this project seems like a good way to preserve an important part of Australian gliding history, we must all accept that we live in a society where such projects do not find themselves free of the (seemingly restrictive) laws of the land simply because they are well-meaning. It would only take a complaint from one of the multitude of authors to bring this whole idea unstuck. Tread very carefully people ! Cheers Jason Armistead At 02:03 PM 25/05/2005, you wrote: > > >Well, I have some info... Ann Woolf at Waikerie has been scanning her > > >collection of AGs, running from 1948 to 1997. The scanned AGs will be > > >for sale on CD. > > That's pretty awesome. I look forward to hearing more. > >Ann's up to 1989, and plans to scan them up to 1997 when the format of the >magazine changed. The CDs will cost about $20 each, plus p&p. A couple of >years' worth fit on one CD. The whole collection will probably be 12 CDs. > > CD1 1951 - 1961 > CD2 1962 - 1966 > CD3 1967 - 1970 > CD4 1971 - 1974 > CD5 1975 - 1977 > CD6 1978 - 1980 > CD7 1981 - 1983 > CD8 1984 - 1986 > CD9 1987 - 1989 > >If you're interested in these, best thing would be to contact Ann Woolf, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] or 08 8541 3982. > > > Have you considered putting the entire thing on line? That would make > > the documents themselves searchable (and even the photos if one > > considers searching captions as equivalent (not always the case). > >The magazines aren't scanned to text: doing all that OCR would be a >*really* big job. As it is, Ann's been working on this full-time for >months. > > > .. Are > > there any copyright or other barriers to putting everything on line? > >That I don't know. But I believe there's no problem with putting Ann's >index online, because she created it herself. I'll let the list know when >I have something useful to show. > > > >_______________________________________________ >Aus-soaring mailing list >[email protected] >To check or change subscription details, visit: >http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list [email protected] To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list [email protected] To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
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